Cardinals chat: Derrick Goold takes your Cardinals questions at 1 p.m. Monday

Cardinals chat: Derrick Goold takes your Cardinals questions at 1 p.m. Monday

Bring your Cards questions and comments to a live chat with Derrick Goold at 1 p.m. Monday

    You can point to examples of teams making comments of the random aspect of the playoffs, and there is truth to it. Some teams don’t let it dictate their decisions the way the Cardinals do. I point to Betts as exhibit A and Snell as exhibit B. If all teams really believed it was all that random those teams wouldn’t have made that kind of addition. They were already play off teams without the upgrade. Do the Cardinals really believe that they could have beat San Diego or the Nationals? I think what happened is what was going to happen...short of a miracle.
    If you're asking not asking rhetorically: Yes, the Cardinals feel they could have defeated San Diego. They won Game 1. They had a lead in Game 2. And they had Jack Flaherty going against nine different pitchers in Game 3. So, yeah, the Cardinals thought they could have ousted the Padres.
    And you know what?
    You should have expected that from the Cardinals, too. That they didn't is a indictment on how flighty their offense was how once again the offense squandered an opportunity purchased it by the pitching. But since you asked, yes, the Cardinals thought they could defeat the Padres, and Cardinals' fans should have expected them to do that, too.
    (The K key on keyboard is betraying me. Lovely.)
    From my perception at least it appears that two of our top hitting prospects are both third-baseman (Gorman and Montero). Is there a feeling that if both of them turn out to be something the organization will have to move them or would they try to find a spot in the field elsewhere for one of them?
    Gorman is the third baseman. Montero is establishing himself as the bat. And there is no such thing as too much talent, and there can be some movement there. We'll see how they carve up playing time for both of them at Class AA, and then, yes, ultimately, it's possible that they look to make one of them the centerpiece of a trade if it looks like Montero cannot find another position or that only position alternative for either of them is first and Goldschmidt is there.
    Thanks for doing the chats Derrick. I usually read it later, but here I am so I thought I'd join in. I'm thinking there will not be any big long term free agent deals this winter. More like a lot of last minute one year deals. The future is too uncertain for teams to make informed long term investments. What do you think?
    With the exception of the top tier of players and McCann, that appears to be the case, yes. It would be a surprise if, say, Pederson scores that longterm deal. That would be a hearty sign for players. Springer, LeMaheiu, and Realmuto -- those position players will get the longer term deals. Will likely test their patience to get them, but they likely will.
    We keep hearing about 2 years being an issue with Yadi, but do you think that discussions about playing time could also be lurking in the background? I don't see how the Cardinals can avoid giving a young catcher, probably Knizner, some more reps in 2021. Even if Yadi can somehow play two more years, they have to develop one or more young catchers. That doesn't happen without playing time. Knizner doesn't have much left to prove at AAA and Herrera could be knocking on the door as the year goes on.
    I wouldn't get caught up in two years "being an issue" with Molina. That is his desire. There is a sense that the Cardinals may be the only team willing to go two years with him. I spoke to him about this playing time idea. One of the last times I talked to him in person was about this topic -- would he re-sign with the Cardinals if he had to share the job with Knizner, if the Cardinals said they wanted him to catch 100 games and Knizner 62. Molina had an interesting answer to that question. He said he understood if that's what the Cardinals expected from him, and that it would be up to him to prove he could play more. He said the contract wasn't a guarantee of playing time -- performance was, and that he, if given the chance to return, would compete to prove that he's still the best defensive catcher in the majors (his words) and that they would let him play. He saw it as a competition, and also one that he would win, he said.
    That said, the Cardinals don't have to bring up much about playing time. In the past few years, there have been long stretches of playing time available to Molina's backup.
    It has been said that Cardinal fans would not tolerate a significant rebuild. I for one would rather watch an exciting rookie bat with runners on base than a veteran with a history of striking out in similar situations. Is it time to reconsider this assumption?
    You are talking about one at-bat in one situation in one game with an uncertain outcome regardless of who is in the box. A rebuild would involve months of losing baseball. Months. Months. So more than a thousand at-bats in that same spot with failure after failure after failure after failure after loss after loss after loss. 
    But, hey, you're right they would be young. 
    The thrill of the single situation like you describe is hardly evidence that the fan base could stomach a 100 loss season. 
    The Cardinals are making season ticket holders either pay 25% of the cost for season tickets in 2021 in exchange for the ability to buy tickets in 2022 or pay in advance for the entire 2021 season by January 15, 2021 . Failure to do either results in loss of PSL. This will give them millions of dollars in loans from fans. They have the money!!!!
  • Correct. And then they have to be ready to pay some of that money back when games aren't happening. It's likely all of that money is going to go into a separate account that is paid out from if/when the schedule is shortened or there's a lockout that erases some of the 2022 season. Fun times.
    Derrick, it appears that with all of the one year deals, we’re looking at another flooded free agent market next year, as well as CBA negotiations. Are we headed for an offseason far worse than the current one?
    Entirely possible. Baseball has entered a perilous stretch.
    I really really really miss the teams from 2011-2015. That’s all.
    There was probably a good chance or two in there to win another pennant.
    Is Liberatore going to be polished as a starter or reliever? Probably too early to say.
    Starter. He'll be a starter.
    Mr. Goold: Do you envision MLB one day having an actual salary cap, similar to the other three major sports?
    I do not. The ingredients to make that happen and the desire are not there, on either side. They'll continue to have the soft cap that is a limit on the owners themselves without having to reveal all of their books/revenues to the players. If you listen to the most recent Best Podcast in Baseball, I asked if Cohen was the owner that was going to usher a salary cap into baseball, and my guest, SNY's Andy Martino, had a great answer about the actions that say Cohen won't be.
  • Doe MO and DeWitt see the unrest in Cardinal Nation? Are they aware how angry fans are? Or do they not really care because they know plenty will show up regardless?
    I wouldn't confuse Twitter or the chat with all of Cardinals Nation. They'll take note when they see it show up in ticket sales if they see it show up in ticket sales. Mozeliak has been quite candid that he got a lot of angry emails and a clear window into some fan frustration following the team wearing Black Lives Matter shirts for BP, and for some of the public comments players made in support of drawing attention to racial injustice.
    This Winter Warmup will be interesting, but again the audience isn't always the same, and the fan sentiment isn't always the same, and it's far easier to yell at a reporter in a chat, or yell at a reporter on Twitter from the bunker of anonymity than it is, apparently, to voice those frustrations directly to the team or withhold your spending on the team.
    That's the disgruntlement they'd hear loudest. The sound of empty coffers.
    Very interesting breakdown of the "what if Heyward signed" scenario. Another point to add on that is the Cubs may never of won the WS in '16 without his rain delay pep talk! Oh the what ifs!!!
    Correct. Imagine that. Cubs going on year 110. Cleveland isn't trading Lindor. Rajah Davis has a statue by the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame.
    Trading for a outfielder with an impact bat kills the playing time for our young outfielders that we need to sort out.
    Shrug emoji. I thought improving the lineup was the goal.
    How about Carlos, Miller for Charlie Blackmon?

    Side question, have you ever had a trade proposal in these chats that actually happened? haha
    Not precisely, but the general format of the trade, yep. During the chats several years ago chatters and the conversation did a good job of outlining what it would take to get a Stanton deal done, a Goldschmidt deal done, and what an Ozuna or Yelich trade would look like. So, yeah, there have been close ones.
    Hi, I'd like to ask about merchandising advantage of buying KK. Do you know how much money Korean fans and Korean broadcast spent for Cards last year? Is signing KK worth financially except his performance?
  • I don't. I do know that a lot of that would be shared with the other 29 teams, though.
  • What will be the fallout around Adam Wainwright being named in the lawsuit with the Angels clubhouse manager?
    Nothing. I'm going with nothing. Nothing at all.
    Maybe a good story. Maybe a good conversation about the inside baseball reason for using rosin, pine tar, etc. for better grip and better rules eventually. That's all. It makes for a good story to tell and a great thing for us to talk about.
    DG, if you live in the St Louis MLB territory you are blacked out on MLBTV. Maybe it’s time for MLB to leave the tv world dark ages and make them available
    It is indeed. Drop the blackouts, and do games on Disney+ for kids. We've fixed baseball. Congrats to us.
    A home run is a home run. But, do teams track the distances of home runs when considering how players from outside organizations would play in their home park? Someone referenced the Mac/Sosa hr derby and it was obvious then that Sosa had many more friendly confines and barely homers. More to the current team, Busch is obviously playing even bigger than it is. Ozuna and Goldy, are part of their power "struggles" related more to the home park than is recognized? As recently as 2019 season, the Cards were a power team when they got to go play in Atl. I think this is why gap to gap line drive hitters with power are going to play better in STL, then pure power hitters that either hit it up and over or up and into a glove or k.
    Absolutely they do. If fans and reporters are doing it, you can bet teams are doing it too. They have for a long, long time. I remember looking at spray charts the Cardinals had for a hitter more than 10 years ago, and how that was put over Busch Stadium III to have a sense of how many of those homers would have been homers and would have flyouts. I seem to recall a similar graphic was drawn/illustrated on computer for Ryan Ludwick before they signed him as a six-year free agent. 
    Park factors are real. Park factors are a huge part of how teams look at players, and play a huge role in how they look at who to acquire and what they can expect from that player at their home ballparks.
    Sir, I understand his history and he is great guy etc...but beyond that why is there a push to resign Waino?
    He was their best pitcher in 2020, and arguably the team's MVP.
  • How is it that the Padres are under the same financial restrictions from 2020 that the Cardinals are experiencing but they go out and make significant moves to improve their club? Is Mo being held back by ownership or is it the case of doing nothing is easier than to take a risk?
    The short answer is always yes -- ownership is setting the table for what Mozeliak can do. Ownership does that. And, yes, the Cardinals are a team that avoids risk when possible, when they can see it coming, when data tells them, "Danger, John Mozeliak! Danger!"
    The long answer is the view of the organization, the philosophy, and what they're trying to achieve. This is a classic conflict between capitalizing on the talent now, the window to win now, and be damned the consequences of later, and the Cardinals steady as they go, consistency. 
    The Padres have a window to win now, and see it. And know to do it they've got to get over the Dodgers, and the spending now will have ramifications later.
    Please don't ignore the fact that the Padres have not been competitive for awhile. They have been absent from the postseason since Ronnie Belliard stole a base hit in shallow right field and Jim Edmonds handed out a game ball. They've had a long time down to now have this peak up -- and they've spent hundreds of millions to get there, and even then their best player is arguably making the minimum. So the stars have aligned after a long long long long valley of being irrelevant.
    The Cardinals have said over and over and over again that they aren't that model. They don't want it. They would rather be rollercoaster on the kids side of the amusement park with the small changes in elevation than the Tower of Terror ride where that long, laborious climb to the top is rewarded with some dizzying moments of height and then the inevitable plunge.
    Now, the question becomes whether fans like the Wild Chipmunk ride with its limited drama, and constant presence as a contender without the thin air of rare competitiveness and the adrenaline jolt that comes with moments like this for the Padres ... 
    I don't have a good answer for that.
    Fans would have to provide it.
    And that's a good place to stop with the weekly Cardinals chat. Something to chew on for the coming week -- until we meet again. There is a deadline this week. There are meetings for the Cardinals all week. There are negotiations that are going to happen in the near future. There will be movement this week, and that means we'll have plenty to talk about next week, coming out of the Virtual Winter WarmUp and heading one week closer to clarity on spring training.
    There is so much stress right now for good reason, so I hope this chat this afternoon was a welcome distraction from the news and tension everywhere else.
    Thank you for giving me a reason to talk baseball for a few hours.
    This was an excellent and wide-ranging and challenging chat -- the best kind.
    Stay tuned. Stay informed. Stay healthy. Do what you can to stay kind.
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