Cardinals chat with Derrick Goold

Cardinals chat with Derrick Goold

Bring your Cardinals questions and comments, and talk to Post-Dispatch baseball writer Derrick Goold in a live chat at 11 a.m. Monday.

    Happy Tender Day -- where front offices around baseball have their own Cyber Monday! They're trying to make deals, explore trades, and then make decisions by this evening on whether or not they will tender a contract to arbitration-eligible players. The Cardinals have one player, one, to make a decision on: John Gant. Shortstop Paul DeJong would be eligible for arbitration this year based on Super-2 status, but he signed an extension awhile ago, and that leaves one contract decision for the Cardinals by this evening's deadline. There are a few teams that are at least taking phone calls on outfielders -- Boston stands out, Seattle less so -- and the Cardinals have kept tabs on that market. We'll see how the day develops. I'm going to get a refill on the coffee. Load up the hopper with questions.
     
    They can be tender, or non-tender. Your call.
    If the season would have lasted one week longer, the Cards wouldn't have even made the playoffs. Now, the Cards are hoping that Fowler, Bader and Carpenter have career years which means no upgrade at all offensively in 2020. Boy, is it going to be a long season!!
    I think your math is dubious if not out and out incorrect. But that's the beauty of making statements that aren't rooted in fact -- you cannot disprove a negative, they say. We'll never know if they would or would not make the playoffs if the season was a week longer because this past season, like the season before it and the 10 before it and the 20 before that, was 162 games long and at the end of it the Cardinals were the NL Central champs. Not the Cubs. Not the Reds. Not the Brewers. The season said the Cardinals were the NL Central champs and they'll have a logo up all season in 2020 as a result of that. But I cannot stop you from adding an asterisk every time you see that because they didn't win the division in your week-longer season.
    Do you see Cardinals ask the Orioles for Mancini? It is said that Orioles are not yet extending Mancini, and he will look good in our line-up.
    This is a match that many people are asking about, and it's at least a conversation the Cardinals have had. I'm not sure what the Orioles are being pressured to do. Look at their recent waiver move with the best all-around player on their team. That's a cost-cutting move. Not a baseball move. And the fact that no team entertained the chance to trade for Villar tells you a lot about the system: There wasn't a team that thought his salary and the player acquisition costs was worth the production. That's going to tell a team interested in Mancini too what kind of pressure the O's are under to ... reduce costs? Reboot? That's the question I have. I see the match and understand why there's a lot of intrigue online about this possibility. I have not been able to isolate or uncover any momentum for a deal from the two teams.
    Derrick, any updates on some of the Cardinals walking wounded? Hicks, Reyes, Cecil? Have the Cards been monitoring JMart and if so is he behaving?
    Jose Martinez? He's an adult. I'm not sure what "monitoring" you're talking about. The Cardinals keep tabs on social media, and I know they've in the past tried to police some of the things they've seen from Carlos Martinez -- videoing himself while driving high speeds, for example, and they've had some success reminding him of that -- but I don't know what this would be referencing, and like I said. He's an adult. This is his offseason, his time away, his unpaid vacation, and you have to think of how you would react to your boss checking in on your vacation. It's the same thing.
     
    Jordan Hicks -- Same as it ever was. He's going to be back around the All-Star break. There is an extra month of rehab built into his timetable this winter, in part, because of his diabetes, and the monitoring he and the Cardinals wanted to do as he rebuilt his strength.
     
    Alex Reyes -- Normal winter. He's in the Dominican Republic, or was a few weeks ago when I checked. He's working out at the team's academy at times, and the Cardinals believe that the change of scenery and change of perspective and offseason without injury and family concerns will be best for him. Spoke to his agent recently, and he said that Reyes was in a good place, mentally, and focused on building strength.
     
    Brett Cecil -- Ready to go for spring training. Should be deep into a throwing program in the near future and aiming to be good to go at the start of spring, ahead of the other major-leaguers.
     
    Carlos Martinez -- Has an important checkup coming up here in Jupiter or St. Louis. The Cardinals need to know how he's recovered from treatment and where he appears to be headed with his throwing program. If they see some setback or some concern with his stamina/strength then they are positioned to pivot into the market place for a starter. If they think he can be the starter, the Cardinals are going to spend some time in the next few weeks exploring the relief market. His progress is a fork in the road for the Cardinals this winter.
    What do you make of the fact that Ozuna has not signed anywhere yet? I get the feeling he’s not getting the big money in the offers he’s gotten so far, otherwise I would have expected a press conference somewhere on it.
    Absolutely nothing. Nothing has changed. This is how the offseason goes nowadays, and has for several years now. Matt Holliday signed in January and still got the money he wanted. Dexter Fowler signed in December and got a year more than he was seeking around Thanskgiving. The fact Ozuna hasn't signed yet tells us nothing more than we didn't know going into the holiday and it certainly doesn't mean the market has softened for him, not at all. Today is one of those dates on the calendar that teams work toward -- and then see how they sit after it. For example, teams interested in adding an outfielder are going to see what happens today because
     
    -- Trades could happen.
    -- New OF could be free agents if non-tendered today.
     
    Those two things will help shape the market, and teams interested in Ozuna had no reason to sign him before today passes. There's no harm, only benefit. They have more info. And there is no game to play that they need to rush him into the lineup. 
    Fowler and Carpenter could go hitless in Spring Training and they are starting Opening Day, is Bader in that camp too?
    None of those things are true, and you know that.
    Is munoz in danger of losing a spot on the opening day roster? With edman being so versatile and Sosa performing well in winter ball, I’m not sure there aren’t better options right now. Of course, things can change between now and then.
    Yes, he is. And it's one of the reasons why the Cardinals have encouraged him to play some winter ball and get the at-bats and starts and innings in the field that he did not get this past season, or really these past two seasons. They want to see him get those everyday reps as he heads toward spring training. Edman has leapfrogged him for a spot on the bench. Edmundo Sosa can play shortstop and has had a strong winter, akin to Cabrera a year ago, and that positions him well because of the performance and the Cardinals need for a backup shortstop that they will play at shortstop. He's another challenger for Munoz's spot. There is an extra spot on the bench in 2020, but the Cardinals and others are looking at that spot as another reason to carry a bat, and as mentioned in previous chats that's one of the reasons why Ravelo is still on the 40-man roster not too long after the Cardinals wondered if Voit would have a spot. As you can see the competition is thick for Munoz's spot, and the Cardinals are open to him getting regular reps at Class AAA if that's how this falls.
    Derrick, Mr DeWitt stated the Cardinals were about 6th I’n spending this past season and the intend on staying at that amount. Did he mean staying around 6th in payroll or staying at that actual dollar amount?
    He means they plan on being top 10 in spending and they intend to be top 10 in local revenue. That's always been the target for the Cardinals -- as far as ownership has stated. And they did slip out of that top 10 in payroll spending a few years ago, right after they had a series of free agents decline their offers. This past year was a climb back in, and candidly spending the same is probably going to put them at the same spot in 2020. It's not like we're seeing much spending by teams these days.
    Latest on Cards offseason moves?
  • Well, today they plan on presenting John Gant a contract. So that's exciting.
  • Is #KeepWong trending?...it should be
    Something that obvious shouldn't be a trend, it should just be accepted.
    Great article summing up the Cards' top 10 prospects. I am wondering why Arozarena isn't rated higher than 10th given his numbers (.344/.431/.571 for a 1.003 OPS) especially when compared directly to Carlson's .292/.372/.542 for a .914 OPS who's #1. What all goes into these rankings?
    When it comes to Baseball America's rankings they do put an emphasis on high ceilings. They're going to side with potential over production in most cases, and also go with age, too. In this case, the scouts and stats suggest that Dylan Carlson is going to be a starting player in the majors, a regular even high up in the order, and a contributing player with high, All-Star upside. That's going to get him ranked ahead of a player who is older and who projects to be a fourth outfielder, maybe a starter on the right team or in the right situation. I try to think of prospect rankings in these terms:
     
    Proximity -- to majors
    Production -- in stats
    Potential -- in the future
    Position -- how demanding, how rare, how valuable, how versatile
     
    Keep in mind, too, that Carlson is 21, and Arozarena is 24, and will be 25 in spring training. That's more information, and that's less time to his peak. And so on.
    What are the odds the Cards go after Kuechel
    ?
    They'll have a discussion -- have had a discussion -- with his agent. The Cardinals remain committed to seeing how things are progressing with Carlos Martinez (as mentioned earlier) before diving into the pitcher market, but they're not plugging their ears when it comes to listening to what players like Keuchel are seeking and if there's a fit at some point.
    Do the Cardinals view Tommy Edman more as an outfielder (starter) or more as a utility player?
    Utility player. They see him more as an infielder than an outfielder.
    with a 26 man roster is 13 pitchrs really a necessity? Why not 12 and use the I70 express to bring in somebody when necessary?
  • It's going to be a 13/13 breakdown. That's what teams are expecting from the new roster rules.
    Who do you think Mo was most thankful for on Thanksgiving: 1). Goldy; 2) Edman; 3) Wong; 4) Shildt; or 5) none of the above?
    6) The fans that support the team, probably.
    I really don’t see the Cardinals making any significant moves this off season. They are being hamstrung by Carp and Fowlers contracts. They won’t be jumping in the Cole/Strasberg bidding so that just leaves 2nd or 3rd tier pitching available to go after. What legitimate pitching help could you see them bidding for?
    There are many, many, many, many, many good pitchers and possibilities out there. I cannot stress this enough: There is a pitcher for every price point available this winter. Sure, some have already signed. Odorizzi accepted the QO. Gibson has signed with Texas. But there are still a handful out there that could be Nos. 1-4 for a contending team. That's true: The Cardinals aren't going to be wading into the Cole waters, and if they have a talk about Strasburg it will be his agent trying to lure the Cardinals into the conversation, but they're reluctant to pay that freight and lose that draft pick, even if they're going to pick up one from Ozuna. That said, there still is a long list of potential pitchers that could have high upside, high value. It's going to take patience for that to sort out. Per usual.
    Hi DG, thanks for doing that chat. He had the team soured on ONeil. He was a top 100 prospect and he has POWER. but after he came back from injury he never really played and was left off the post season roster. I get the impression that Lane Thomas has passed him in the FOs evaluations and in likelihood of Manning LF next year.
    Tyler O'Neill really had trouble overcoming cold streaks and injuries this season, not necessarily in that order. He also seem to struggle because of the erratic playing time with some adjustments he was trying to make -- and had shown some early success making. It just was an erratic season for him. Erratic health. Erratic playing time. Erratic performance. Sure seems like he would benefit from a chance to drill down on his swing, get more of that hard contact that we saw in stretches in 2018, and then get the playing time to get the timing. Spring will afford him that. Lane Thomas has his fans in the organization, and that's going to also get him some prominent playing time in spring training. There's room for both to get the ABs needed to impress.
    I LOVE when people use the argument “if the season lasted a week longer.” The season lasts as long as the season lasts. That argument is irrelevant.
  • Later this week, I'm going to try this argument with my boss: "My story would have been much better if I had another hour before deadline."
     
    Think it will work?
  • Any word on Ozuna? A long term contract with him probably won’t end well. In the near term they don’t have a 4 hole hitter.
    Same as it ever was, really. As mentioned earlier: Today was a date on the calendar that does impact the free agent market because it means trades at those positions teams have to explore and it could mean new free agents hitting the market. Ozuna's side didn't expect a rush to sign, and thought there would be some meetings with teams at the winter meetings. That's still the plan. The list of teams that are interested obviously shift based on the moves made elsewhere. The Texas Rangers have approached Ozuna's agent with some interest, but there are also reports that the Rangers are looking to woo Anthony Rendon to play third base for them this coming season. Can't see them doing both of those things, honestly. So they keep both plates spinning. That's pretty common this time of year.
    Are the Rockies looking for OF's to roam their expansive OF? I could see Bader or O'Neill being attractive to them for 2 reasons, Baders defense and O'Niells offense in the rarified atmosphere. Any fit there at all?
    Seems like I've said it every week for awhile now, and that includes trying to explore this during the season while in Coors Field: It doesn't take a brain surgeon to see how well Harrison Bader would fit at Coors Field with the Rockies. He could cover that huge wide-open space there in center and his offense would flourish at that field. If that phone call hasn't been made to at least explore that possibility, then -- shrug -- I must not be smart enough to figure out what's going on there in Denver. And, as we know, the GM of the Rockies would agree with that.
    It's been a quiet offseson so far. What percentage would you give that the cards trade one of the three. Carpenter/Bader/Jose Martinez
    Thanks DG! #MoreBPIBplease
    The podcast should return this week as a preview of the Winter Meetings. We're putting together the coverage plan for next week in San Diego. Ben Frederickson will be traveling as well, giving The Post-Dispatch two writers on site, and a chance for the constant coverage and daily chats that you've come to expect from the Post-Dispatch's presence at the winter meetings.
     
    It's been a quiet offseason for all of baseball, for sure. And the Cardinals haven't had that move that they want to make that means jumping to the front of the line like they did with Cecil, backup catchers, Peralta, or, even, a year ago Goldschmidt. 
     
    I would put the percentages as low for all three. Carpenter is about a zero with his no-trade clause and the Cardinals' public statements of commitment to him. The organization currently sees Bader as their starting center fielder and they've fended off interest in him before/again in part because they don't like the return they'd get for him. Jose Martinez? He's got a role now with the team, and does it well. And he's signed through 2020, so there's financial certainty that the Cardinals like.
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