Yep, and it all happened on my wedding anniversary. So that was fun. A few years ago, in 2017, that too was a busy winter meetings given all the things that happened in the final 24 hours.
This is a fair school of thought.
No deadlines. NHL and NBA have a different free-agent culture and a different free-agent calendar. They want the whirlwind of excitement. Baseball is designed to keep itself in the headlines all year round. That was something that Selig wanted.
They met with his agent at the GM Meetings. They did not make a play for him; there's no evidence that they did. That's partially because Smith was going for closer dollars, not just lefty/Miller dollars. That was the goal. Or, at least, that was where the conversation was at that point.
I think this point is interesting. Certainty is the way to contend year in and year out, but you're right about the Cardinals return on their investments recently and the trouble they've had getting the certainty they thought they acquired. There might be something to this. But you have to be willing to take the turbulence if you make this bet.
Just a quick point of information: I reported that that Cardinals had interest in Wheeler -- but only after the deadline passed. I could not pin that down before the deadline. Only after. I tried. But I could never get a good feel on whether the Cardinals were in on Wheeler. They were. The Mets wanted an outfielder as part of package of players they'd get in return. The Cardinals interest in Wheeler is still there. Not as urgent because the deadline creates a different level of pressure to make a move than the lethargic winter market. But Wheeler isn't off the radar.
I get where you're going, and I wish I had a good answer. A while back I asked around about this -- how do you goose the running game in an age when run-defense has never been better, timings are varied by pitchers, and so on and so on, and also there are more strikeouts. One of the answers I got was that the increase in uses of curveballs would invite more steals, more action on the bases, eventually, but not at a game-changing rate because the run-defense is still so good. Another answer I got was how the modern focus on damage just keeps runners tethered to first, when the are there. If the next guy is swinging for a homer, double, or strikeout then where's the chance or reason to steal second without 100 percent certainty, went the question? You're right. The game has conspired to remain the go-go game because steals are not calculated. They're not pickpockets anymore. They're insider trading. I don't have a good answer for a rule that would change that, except for the fact that I believe if you lower the strike zone by another inch or so you would get more balls in play, more action, more balls on the ground, and that has a chance to get runners in motion or put runners more often at first from a single. That seems to at least increase the odds of running.
Absolutely that is one way to consider it. The Cardinals do use publicly available WAR numbers when talking with agents. They also have internal metrics.
You're welcome to have whatever expectations you wish. I'm trying to offer background and statistics to inform those expectations. If you are down on the team for 2020, then by all means be down on the team for 2020. But if you come into the chat and tell me how I should be down on the team for 2020, have reasons. That's the field of play here, those are the rules of engagement. I don't promise high fives or a bat on the back for having an opinion, and I won't agree with every opinion entered into the chat because someone wrote it.
I don't know of a ceiling. They'd prefer to go fewer years and higher cost. That would be part of it. The ceiling always moves based on the market. They have to respond to it. They'd be looking for value where they can find it. And that's really the beauty of this market. At some point the music is going to stop and there won't be a seat for everyone of the strong pitchers, not at the years or dollars they want, and that's the area that the Cardinals could be. You're right not to envision Strasburg or Cole. That's not their tune. But there's a handful of pitchers still in that second shelf or lower that Keuchel, Bumgarner, Wheeler, as discussed, Hamels all fit in there somewhere.
Absolutely he would. Yep. The Cardinals would welcome that.
Noted. Thanks for sharing your view.
It's Dec. 2. Let's check how next week goes. Moustakas has moved. He's a Boras client. So that's a start. Major League Baseball wants to see more action at the winter meetings. This is important to the commissioner's office, and that will likely be relayed to the teams. We'll see how the market plays along.
Well, Moustakas was not on the Cardinals' radar. This was clear coming out of the post-season presser. The Cardinals didn't use names. They didn't need to when it came to how they viewed making a move at the third base position.
Let's hope so. We've seen this trend of ex-players with no experience play out. Some have worked well (Counsell) and some haven't. Some haven't twice. It would be a great, progressive move for baseball to see other teams follow the Shildt model or even the Snitker model and open the jobs up to a wide bandwidth of candidates. Also, could we see more minority candidates? It is stunning how much turnover there was this winter and how little change to the look of the manager ranks there has been.
They cannot use the injured list like this, no. That would be a violation of the IL, and baseball would not sign off on it. Homesickness -- even with a note from the doctor -- is not cause for IL. They could however massage the schedule to get him more starts at home than on the road, and look for ways to pull that off. It would be a tad labor intensive to make them all at home and the strain would be on the other starters to work around him. So, I don't think that's going to happen. In the postseason, it's easier to pull off ...
Alright, this seems like a good place to bring the chat home. Good questions this week. The number of topics covered in recent weeks is impressive, and I'm not sure if that's because we have to fill the vacuum of the pre-meetings winter or if that's just a sign of how many questions there are about the Cardinals and every facet of the Cardinals. I bet it's a mix of both. And it's appreciated. The Cardinals chat will return next Monday, live from San Diego and the 2019 Winter Meetings. Ben Frederickson will be there, and we'll have coverage coming constantly online and in print. There will be chats daily as well. The meetings start Monday. They end with the Rule 5 draft Thursday. Mike Shildt will hold court with reporters one of those days. There will be evening updates coming from the news of the day. So circle back in the evening for those. Hope everyone had a good holiday weekend. Let's all home the hot stove gives us sparks to talk about here in the coming weeks. Aloha.