Haven't heard Kelvin Herrera come up as an option for trade.
Thanks. It was an unintentional allusion.
He's intriguing. For me. And as I ask around, the more he seems like a solid, value play. Bryan Shaw was also mentioned in some conversations I had this past weekend with people. Swarzak has an appealing K/9 rate. He's one of the group of pitchers with high fastball velocity (94.7 mph average), and he's got the movement/bite on the pitch to go with the classic FB/breaking ball reliever mold. He stormed into Milwaukee with some wicked stuff -- and the Cardinals got an eyeful of it the first time -- before then all the work and strain seemed to get the better of him in the pennant race. Pick through this stats and you see the makings of a guy who could blossom as a closer if given the chance and if he is able to take the same stuff from setup into the ninth. I find the facets of what he offers interesting.
Not exactly the direction they intend to go to clear up the outfield, Mr. Cain. No.
If the Yankees want to move him, sure. The Yankees are one of the few teams with the kind of bullpen that other teams envy, and it's not likely they want to rob from their depth to take away from that, not at this point. I read a story recently that talked about how Betances gets a fresh start, immediately, because the Yankees are going to have a new manager, and that Girardi, who showed so little faith in Betances there in the end, moves on and Betances stays on.
I have not. I will when it arrives, and then it will likely preoccupy my research and attention on Christmas week. That tends to be when I start piecing together my votes.
Disney ain't your thing? 2018 will be in Vegas.
They'll try. A lot, but not as much as some speculation has indicated because the contract is still a hefty load and that does play into the talented going the other direction, but you knew that. Don't know. Enough to cover the risk that the Cardinals or other team don't want to take on. It will cost whatever amount of the salary the Marlins don't cover -- but don't ignore the opt-out clause as a problem here, or a factor here because there is risk involved in that even if the contract is built for Stanton to stay. Fans can do whatever they want. MLB rules of tampering do not apply.
It does. Other teams feel they are catching up.
The report is accurate. The cost is expected. We've all known it's going to take a pitcher to make a deal like that, and in this chat already we've explored the kind of names that are in play.
I guess I assumed the qualifier was understood: The kind of hitter the Cardinals want are rare, hard to find and hard to get. The kind of pitcher the Cardinals would pursue are abundant. This statement would be different if, say, the Cardinals were in the market for an ace. That kind of pitcher, like the bat they need, is rare. But there are an abundance of relievers this winter. There are an abundance of starting options this winter. There are not very many bats in the game -- for get in the market -- that would be the kind the Cardinals want to build a lineup around, and those who are in the game are often locked up and guarded and not moved at all. So, yes, there are many outfielders available. But the Cardinals have enough outfielders. They want a bat. A lineup-altering bat. That's rare.
I'm not sure even they know -- unless they have a signing just waiting for the green flag to drop, and that didn't seem likely over the weekend.
It's about 60/40. Some just sign off and don't know anything that happens with the team. A slight majority pay attention, wonder, and even chime in with suggestions or constantly check on MLBTradeRumors and so on. I have arrived at spring training and talked to a player or two a few times that then asks me what new players to expect to walk through the door -- or have been surprised when a former teammate does, even though that former teammate was added months earlier.
Like I said: Silly season.
Reports. Not rumors. Reports. Scroll back into the chat.
I'm not so sure. There are a few that might offer more flexibility. But that could also hinge on what pitcher has to move to get the bat that the Cardinals want. That could create an innings void that is even more acute than the one they have now, and make it clear that they'll miss Lynn, or a pitcher like Lynn. Lots of moving parts here. As the roster stands right now, the Cardinals could go for a shorter-term deal for a starter and cover what Lynn would offer while maintaining the opening they want for a young pitcher.
They would close that gap significantly. As of today, it's hard to see a team as good as the Astros could be. Of course, we said that last year with the Cubs. Or, rather, baseball people did. News of that dynasty was greatly exaggerated. Pitching matters.
I see where you're going with this, and it does make sense. It is certainly a great question. But it also touches on the difficulty of knowing what to offer when it comes to prospects and what it means for the amount of the dollars necessary to sign him. If Stanton was a given to opt-out -- no doubt, he promised, whatever -- then absolutely his deal becomes infinitely more appealing, and taking on that contract wouldn't be a big deal and the Marlins would definite be able to drum up an incredible return for him. In that way, you're right. If he opts-out, then smashing! It's the likelihood he wont (deal is backended to make the opt-out less appealing) and the possibility he will that just creates curves of this deal that are so unusual and don't really have precedent.
There would be an addition from the outside to join Martinez, Wainwright, Wacha, and Alcantara/Flaherty ...
Simmons would be one of the targets pursued. Detroit's Iglesias would be next, and he could be traded. He would be of interest. Escobar is a free agent.