I've been told that a few times, and that was with the previous front office at the Rays. The Cardinals and the Rays had similar evaluations of players, and the Rays always wanted to win deals, win deals, win deals. They saw winning deals as the only way they could be viable in that market in that division with the behemoths Yankees and Red Sox above them. Cardinals and Rays just saw things too similar through the lens of metrics and that's why deals for, say, Price, got hung up on Taveras or other talents the Rays demanded. New front office. Maybe a new look. Cardinals used to make deals they wanted, now they're in a position to make deals they need -- maybe that changes things, too.
Not a certainty. No, and I've been asking around. Even looking at Class AAA rosters and trying to find i there is a blocked guy there that could be an upside target for Cardinals. That seems to be one place to look. I just haven't uncovered someone in that group. I'll keep looking through the course of this chat.
In a way, sure, health is always key. But one start is not going to clear the fog, as discussed earlier in the chat in greater detail if you roll back.
That is hard to see happening in this window right now. This winter, yes, to be discussed.
Why would you assume Weaver? Some of the those players would be needed for a trade.
Good question. The answer: Both.
Yes. There is a point when that happens. If Fowler continues to struggle that point is sooner.
Exactly. That's why 3B is in play. It could come from adding a shortstop, a glove-first super fielder that moves DeJong to third and then fills in third, too. My point is this: Third base is in play for the Cardinals. That could mean adding a first baseman and moving Carpenter back to third base, too. Either way they are looking at an upgrade and the positive -- in aggregate -- they are trying to upgrade is there at third base. Iglesias for example would a trade/free-agent discussion for the glove at shortstop talk.
Not really. The Cardinals would not be getting peak return.
Those are reports. The Tampa Bay Times has reported that the Rays are seeking catching talent and a power-hitting outfield -- both of which the Cardinals have and both of which the Cardinals have some depth. Rumors are writ in water and gone the moment they're wrong these days. Reports are in ink and there is accountability and attribution for them. They cannot be just rumors. An offer would be built around those two cornerstones -- and outfielder of interest to the Rays and with years of control, a catcher with major-league readiness, and then a pitcher of course with control that fits the Rays' window of contention a little better.
The questions was whether there is a point when Fowler is replaced by Bader or O'Neill in the lineup.
The Cardinals have a few outfielders that have drawn interest from teams. Bader is one. Mercado has his fans outside of the Cardinals' organization. As does Adolis Garcia. Those are the most prominent non-O'Neill outfielders, and I would imagine -- though I haven't tried -- I could find a scout who would pick each of them as the best of the group. Bader has his fans, O'Neill his, and so on.
Wainwright threw a 37 pitch bullpen session Sunday at Busch Stadium. It was split into two groups to simulate innings. He did not throw it at full intensity, but he did use all of his pitches and think through the innings as if he was throwing at-bats. He will increase the intensity of his pitches in the next throw, and will have several more cycles of this with the possible return to rehab in August and big-league appearances by September.
This is the year for it. If the Cardinals don't land a starter in the coming hours or via trade, they'll be back in the mix for that this winter, it seems. That could be Corbin, not sure if they make a play for Keuchel, but either one would be the fit they're looking for, depending on contract/length. They'll make their play for Manny Machado and internally they expect Machado go elsewhere, even if all the offers are equal, or close to equal. Harper is an interesting one. From the outside it doesn't appear to be a match for the Cardinals or for Harper. He goes to a coast. He goes for millions, for age, for upside and the Cardinals already have all that money committed to outfielders. That said, at the All-Star break an agent mused -- just mused, pure musing, complete and utter musing -- that the Harper market may not develop with big cities only being the players and that his season this year could bring other teams, like the Cardinals, into play for him, or at least of interest to him. It's more likely the Cardinals shop at the other levels of the position player market, and LeMahieu is there, for example.
I would not because there doesn't appear to be any chance of that.
It is a lot of control. And that's the kind of deal you're talking. Closer-to-the-majors pitcher, too.
It's like the weekend never happened. Or maybe those deals don't count because they happened or because they involved pitchers? I'm not sure. Or it's Monday, and hunger begins anew.