Cardinals chat with Derrick Goold

Cardinals chat with Derrick Goold

Bring your Cardinals questions and comments, and talk to Post-Dispatch baseball writer Derrick Goold in a live chat from Jupiter, Fla., at 1 p.m. Monday..




    There will be workouts in the mornings on the back fields that are worth attending, especially to see the minor leaguers in the coming week. STEP camp is going, so there's some work on the back fields. Won't get any closer to the players or the future than there.
    Hi Derrick, your comments about all of the improvements in Spring training under Shildt strongly imply that Spring training was not conducted as productively under the prior manager. I understand you don't want to dwell on the past or go negative on someone who did his best, but is that the impression you want to give?
    Two years ago the Cardinals had a difficult spring training. This is not new. This was covered at the time and I took some heat for the story I wrote that had the headline, "Spring of Discontent." That chronicled the issues the team was having on the field, off the field, and around camp -- and we saw a team that played like it prepared. Scattered. A year ago, there was a different feel to the schedule of camp and the work done, but not a change to the atmosphere of camp. It was tight, restrictive -- like it wanted to loosen its tie, but didn't know how. Or forgot the top button. The work was done. The team was sharper. But I still don't think it was the team it recognized or wanted to be, and there were obvious questions players weren't getting answered as far as their place on the team or how/why they fit. There's no issue revisiting the past, because it's good to help us understand the present.
    Derrick,
    Sounds like Harper is at least considering asking for less years now and Dodgers have supposedly join the fray. Of course, the Cardinals are on sideline hoping Dexter will do something, anything this season. I guess I’m lost as to why they wouldn’t be interested in Harper at 26 YOA for say 4-5 years other than the fact they know they don’t need to and another 3.4 millioN will flood the seats again thiS year. Do you know of any other reason they would be hesitant? If so, please enlighten us all
    Thanks
    I really hope that this isn't the topic that ties us in pretzels all season but I know it will be. I also don't want to become someone who just copy/pastes answers because that's not fair to you. It's a bind. Here we go: Once the Cardinals traded for Goldschmidt it wasn't just about the length of contract with Harper or Machado. Yes, a shorter term deal would be more appealing for the Cardinals -- but we haven't seen a reason for Harper to do that unless it means having his pick of places to go and maybe that's to get to the Dodgers. We'll see. Again, there has only been speculation, not word from inside the room that he's going to go down that way. I've also seen reports that he won't do anything short-term. Here we are. Once the Cardinals acquired Goldschmidt they are interested in locking him up and moving the roster around him, and committing to Fowler and starting Bader in center field and that being their team. So, they bowed out. They had internal debates about this for sure. Ownership sees the value of adding a face of the franchise player and a young player while also the risk of the longterm deal. They were ready to stomach it with Stanton, but internally the Cardinals are far happier with Ozuna and Goldschmidt for a little more money than Stanton would have cost and the flexibility of those deals ending.
     
    You are welcome to disagree with any of that. Please do. Question any of the Cardinals approach with that. I cannot say this enough: They have the ability to go after these free agents. They choose not to have the want. That's how it is. Their choice is rooted in the reasons above and the data that says those long deals rarely work out.
    Are players paid throughout the year or only from March - September time frame? Meaning they get their salary over 52 weeks or over 7 months? Or do they have an option on that? (My parents were public school teachers and they were given a choice of pay over 9 months of the school year or the full 12 months of the year.) Just curious.
    Players can choose that, yes.
    If the Cardinals aren't in on Machado or Harper this year, why would they be in on Arenado or Rendon next year?
  • Better fits. Older players. Shorter commitments. And in Arenado's case we know that the Cardinals think that he is a better player. So there's that.
    Have you noticed anything much different thus far this spring as compared to early 2018 concerning Matt Carp's throwing arm?
    Based on the eye test alone who has impressed you most throughout this spring?
    I don't know if there's one this early in camp. Let's list some players who have done well and caught the eye of coaches:
     
    -- Drew Robinson
    -- Ryan Helsley
    -- Alex Reyes and Alex Reyes again and Alex Reyes
    -- Tommy Edman
    -- Jake Woodford
    -- Dennis Ortega
    -- Joe Hudson
    -- Geovany Gallegos
     
    That's a representative list.
    When asked in a previous chat for examples of long-term, high-dollar contracts that appeared to work well for both the player and the organization you responded with the Holiday / Cardinals contract

    Perhaps the question could be asked another way – how many of the largest contracts in MLB history have appeared to work well for both the player and the organization?

    A quick Internet search lists the following as the twenty largest contracts as of 10/20/2016:

    Miguel Cabrera, Detroit Tigers: $292 million over 10 years
    Alex Rodriguez, New York Yankees: $275 million over 10 years
    Alex Rodriguez, Texas Rangers: $252 million over 10 years
    Joey Votto, Cincinnati Reds: $251 million over 12 years
    Albert Pujols, Los Angeles Angels: $240 million over 10 years
    Robinson Cano, Seattle Mariners: $240 million over 10 years
    Clayton Kershaw, Los Angeles Dodgers: $215 million over 7 years
    Prince Fielder, Detroit Tigers: $214 million over 9 years
    Derek Jeter, New York Yankees: $189 million over 10 years
    Joe Mauer, Minnesota Twins: $184 million over 8 years
    Justin Verlander, Detroit Tigers: $180 million over 7 years
    Mark Teixeira, New York Yankees: $180 million over 8 years
    Felix Hernandez, Seattle Mariners: $175 million over 7 years
    Buster Posey, San Francisco Giants: $167 million over 9 years
    C.C. Sabathia, New York Yankees: $161 million over 7 years
    Matt Kemp, Los Angeles Dodgers: $160 million over 8 years
    Manny Ramirez, Boston Red Sox: $160 million over 8 years
    Troy Tulowitzki, Colorado Rockies: $157.75 million over 10 years
    Masahiro Tanaka, New York Yankees: $155 million over 7 years
    Adrian Gonzalez, Boston Red Sox: $154 million over 7 years
    That's a lot of cut paste for the fact that we know a majority of them don't work out. But the answer isn't zero. Miguel Cabrera has worked out. Clayton Kershaw's previous deal did. And so no. Holliday definitely did. Jayson Werth did. Again, the answer isn't zero. So, to suggest that it is -- when a team suggests it is -- that is incorrect. Verlander's did. Scherzer's already has.
    How much difference will it make over an entire season with Moose and Shaw manning 2B/3B for the Brewers defense and ptiching?
    Let me see the Brewers' pitching before I answer whether that even matters.
    Has anyone asked Ozuna why he does not use a red armband instead of the day glo ? It would match his uniform, but maybe he has a special reason for that bright color ?
    Yes. So many times. So so so so many times. Why people care about this and not about him hitting doubles is beyond me. It's a sleeve. The real issue is why he's allowed to where red, blue, neon yellow or puke green because it's a Nike sleeve and Wong cannot wear the flag of Hawaii or Jose Martinez cannot wear the flag of Venezuela. It drives me nuts that Ozuna can make a statement on who pays the most and the others cannot make a statement on what we should be paying attention to. Baseball has yet to reconcile this problem.
    Is the season started today, would Drew Robsinon be on the opening day roster
    It doesn't start today. And for that you should be thankful. Imagine if the starting lineup was based entirely on performance in the first three games. Yowza.
    Is it fairly safe to assume that if Carlos can't handle a week of spring training without having should discomfort then he really shouldn't be expected to do much this season? Seems like a big red flag to me.
    It is not safe to assume that at all. The physical reason would be the issue.
    Any chance Ozuna his the trade block this year? The cards don't seem to have an interest in resigning him. Will they offer him a qualifying offer?
    They would be foolish not to offer him a qualifying offer. What's the worst that happens? He accepts and is the starting left fielder again with his ability? Goodness, what a problem to have.
    Is it fair to describe the relationship between Cardinals fans and the team's front office as mutually acrimonious?
  • Nope. I don't think the message boards and Twitter and the chat speak for all fans. When there are drops in ticket sales and empty seats and protest outside 700 Clark, then we can go so far as to say the relationship is "acrimonious." Right now, their relationship status on line has changed to "it's complicated."
    On Twitter you poked the fans a bit about always wanting Keuchel regardless of what is really going on...clearly you thought the fans wanting him wasn't being thought out. Your Twitter post was almost immediately followed by your former colleague Bernie Miklasz writing an article that the Cards needed to go get Keuchel. Where is the disconnect between you and others on this? I think the "known" quantity of Keuchel is what people are wanting...not the significant question marks surrounding most of the starting rotation. Mikolas and Flaherty have shown one year of success. Martinez is hurt and has a poor track record. Wainwright aging. Wacha spotty. All others unproven.
    I did not poke the fans. I have been steadfast in suggesting the Cardinals could use a pitcher like Keuchel and I have repeated that many times in this chat. I have had to report and explain why the Cardinals are not doing that many many many many times. I don't know how many more times I need to do such things -- and still Twitter twitters. So, I used a clip of a writer isolated in a Colorado hotel with a bad case of writers' block slowly going mad because he's stuck between these warring voices in his head, neither of whom have any interest in listening to each other, but both would love to yell at the writer for not taking their side.
     
    Let's just say, I can relate. 
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    Seems like a good place to end this weeks chat. I've got a notebook to write for tomorrow's paper with some news that I'm surprised nobody asked me about in the chat. But I'm sure I'll be asked about it on Twitter tomorrow -- and maybe the chat next week. This has been an interesting chat. Spring chats always are. And there will be another one next Monday, here from Jupiter Rick Hummel will be hosting as I head to Lakeland, Fla., for the Cardinals visit to the Tigers' camp. That's the start of a three-day voyage to the other side of the state. Ben Frederickson will also be joining the coverage there. A torrent of copy will follow. You have been warned. Aloha.
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