That sort of starter is vanishing from the landscape, it sure seems. Wacha could be a 180 inning pitcher and serve a valuable role. He could get to 200 in a peak season, but the likelihood of that is changing -- partially because he's not going to be used that way and mainly because the game is shifting.
And there is a method to that view, absolutely. Pitching is volatile. Can be replaced.
(Ugh, lost my Internet connection and my swell answer. Let me try this again.)
Dylan Hernandez's article on the subject in the LA Times was a must-read. It was enlightening, thoughtful, and it was thought-provoking. I agree with you entirely that there is a difference between an act done or said maliciously and one that an act done or said ignorantly. There is a stark line there. But I think you should be careful trying to say something wasn't "that egregious." Who are you to say? There aren't shades of insults when it comes to racist acts, stereotypes, or phrases. Egregious is egregious, and it is the person or people who is the target of the acts that only truly knows whether something was insulting, or harmful, or hurtful. Yu Darvish took the high road here. What he said afterward had meaning, and how he reached out to Gurriel through Carlos Beltran -- as reported by Ken Rosenthal -- had real gravity behind it, and was one of the best, impressive moves of the season, for me. He sought to move on -- but not without first acknowledging that everyone needs to move past. When it comes to the punishment, however, there really is one question that should be answered: Would you allow that in your place of employment at the peak of your profession? Or, would you allow that in your home?
The answer is the same as it should be in the dugout, and the punishment should fit the fact that such a thing isn't tolerated by baseball, regardless of intent. There aren't shades of egregious.
I don't believe that Oquendo is the free-agent they intend to add, but his value to the team and to the clubhouse is significant because of the experience he brings, the trust he has in place, and the instincts and feel he has for the game.
How much time do you have?
If that's how it came across, that was not my intent. My intent was to point out that the Cardinals have some work to do to improve their roster and see where that takes them. If they're constantly chasing the Cubs or trying to close the gap on the holes in the roster that you, me, and others perceive, they're doing it the wrong way. They're not going to get a Kris Bryant. They don't have an Addison Russell hanging Busch Stadium. So, find a better team that plays better and close the gap that way. Be a better version of the Cardinals, not some Cubs chaser.
Thanks, Zamboni. I'm about to put this chat on ice.
I appreciate the effort put into this explanation. It does go through some of the concerns, but then it resurrects itself with trades that seem to ignore those same concerns. So, the Yankees are going to rush to trade two of their young players for a player who you just outlined all the reasons why he wouldn't be worth that much to acquire. Which player is the Matt Carpenter you're talking about? The one in 1 and 2 or the elite-OBP, team-friendly contract of No. 4 that gets you the players you suggest in No. 5? Because that guy is worth keeping. And then you suggest your undervaluing his trade potential after listing all the ways you undervalue his production. This is what gets me. And maybe what will take me another week to understand.
Want to know who told me first about this "crapshoot" philosophy for the postseason? I'll tell you. It was in 2004, and he outlined all the things that you probably have heard from Cardinals ownership/executives. Do you want to know who it was?
He's the Cardinals through 2019. He's entering his second year of arbitration rights. Next winter will be his third and final run of arbitration, then free agency arrives unless an extension does sooner.
There would be teams interested, absolutely. He's a punishing hitter. Could change a team.
I do not, except to say that Sierra has been the more highly regarded prospect, and remained so coming out of this season. Mercado was more of a breakout who they are trying to gauge.
Any team that has a big bat to deal -- i.e., Martinez -- is going hold the leverage because there are not many available, and a team's desperation is not going to tilt that scale one way or the other. What we know from the Cardinals is that if a team attempts to "rob" them of a deal, then they will walk away and wish that team good luck in getting the deal done at all, or to come back to them when they want a real conversation. We've seen this work for and, once, against the Cardinals. The Cardinals aren't hiding from the fact they need a big bat because the 29 other teams have access to box scores and standings too, and they know all about the Cardinals' need. It's something opponents have seen for themselves when playing the Cardinals and thinking about beating them.
Exactly. I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that 30 teams would prefer to just take on Stanton's contract over sending the Marlins a top prospect (or two) and taking on the contract. I believe I could get 30 sources to confirm that. That said, this is where negotiations come into play, and we've outlined how the Cardinals and multiple other teams are going to look at that deal.
One wrinkle that we need to explore in the coming weeks is this: Would Stanton accept?
There was also supposition coming out of Miami that he would not, and then there was a report recently that San Francisco was an attractive landing place because Stanton would like to go the West Coast. The Giants cannot offer the prospects that the Cardinals could, but that only matters so much if Stanton won't accept a deal to the Cardinals. Leverage shifts. This deal is complex, and we'll have several more weeks to chew on it, for sure.
Away we go. Seems like a good place to end this week's chat. thanks for filling the box with questions, once again. Still didn't really make a dent in all the questions that came in, and there was enough to fill more than five hours. We'll be back in the coming weeks, and then will have a chat from Orlando and the GM Meetings in the near future. Enjoy the conclusion of this wild, wacky, frenetic, and all-around grand World Series. Have to admit: Seeing Beltran adorn his Hall of Fame career with a World Series ring has a certain appeal. Deserving player. Thanks for an excellent and varied chat. Until next week, thoughts?