Chat Mizzou sports with Dave Matter at 11 a.m. Thursday

Chat Mizzou sports with Dave Matter at 11 a.m. Thursday

Bring your Tigers football, basketball and recruiting questions, and talk to Mizzou beat writer Dave Matter in a live chat at 11 a.m. Thursday.

    Hello there, chatters. Let's get this started. We'll talk all things Mizzou for the next couple of hours.
    If men’s Bball does not make the ncaa tourney does CM keep his job with a solid 2021 class coming in?
    Let's just get this one out of the way first. I don't expect Mizzou to make any coaching changes in men's basketball after this season, even if the team has a disappointing season. Martin is owed $6 million - on top of his $3 million salary - if he's let go after this coming season. Missouri isn't in position financially to pay for a head coach to go away - especially a head coach who doesn't get in NCAA trouble, develops model citizens and is well liked within the department. The athletics department is cutting salaries, laying off employees, putting others on furloughs. The department will see at least a 25-percent revenue drop this year. That might be a conservative estimate. If the scenarios were different - the buyout were cheaper and revenues were up instead of down - then he'd be under more pressure to win this year. But in the current conditions, I don't foresee any changes from the school's end.
    Can losing record football teams make a bowl game this year ?? Would Mizzou accept a bid in this scenario
    Yes, there are no win requirements to play in a bowl this year. Yes, Mizzou would absolutely accept a bowl invitation if there's one to accept. Bowl games are going to be different this year. Teams won't spend a week in the host city attending events and festivities. They'll be treated more like regular-season road games where teams will arrive a day or two in advance.
    1. Control the running game. Kevin Harris has been one of the best running backs in the SEC. The Tigers have to tackle better than what we saw at the Florida game from this defense. 
    2. Expose South Carolina's issues in the secondary. Three of its four starters opted out for the rest of the season. That has to be an advantage for MU.
    3. As always, win the turnover battle.
    Who leads Mizzou in men’s Bball scoring. Assists? Rebounding ?
    Scoring, I'll go with Dru Smith or Xavier Pinson, but I'm leaning toward Smith because he consistently gets to the free throw line more consistently than Pinson makes 3-pointers. Mark Smith will have nights where he's the top scorer. I could see Kobe Brown being the top scorer some nights. Same with Tilmon depending on matchups. 
    Assists: Drew Buggs. He's here to be THE playmaker/facilitator. 
    Rebounding: Tilmon. Mitchell Smith was the team's top rebounder last year, but Tilmon was compromised by the injury. He's healthy now and has to be force inside and on the glass. 
    Any players going to utilize the extra year and come back to play Football?
    I'm suspect some will, but not the best players. Larry Rountree, Josh Bledsoe and Tyree Gillespie have already committed to playing in the Senior Bowl, which means they'll be locked into the 2021 draft pool and not eligible to return for next season. A handful of senior defensive linemen could have decisions to make: Kobie Whiteside, Tre Williams, Chris Turner, Markell Utsey. 
    I would suspect the two graduate transfers are probably ready to move on, Damon Hazelton and KeKe Chism, but it's hard to know for sure. They haven't talked to the media in a few months.
    A date has not been set. Dec. 19 is open for both teams as long as they're not playing in the SEC championship game. Remember, though, starting next week, the SEC can move any game if it helps the league get as many games played as possible. The league office has until Monday nights to scramble games for the coming weekend. Even if your roster or your opponent's roster isn't in jeopardy of hitting the SEC thresholds, the league may move your game if it resolves other conflicts and helps get other games played. So, after this weekend, every game is eligible to be shuffled around.
  • That’s an awful lot of WR leaving the program in that one class at Mizzou! Poor coaching for some ?
  • I'd say it was more poor recruiting/evaluation. We all know Mizzou missed out on some high-profile receiver prospects during the Odom years. But the roster attrition at that position is glaring. Mizzou signed 11 high school/junior college receivers from 2017-19, though only four have ever caught a pass in a game for MU and only two remain on the roster: Jalen Knox and Tauskie Dove.
    Here are the rest:
    2017
    DaRon Davis: never qualitifed
    O'Shae Clark: left the team before camp
    2018
    Knox
    Dove
    Danny Gray: didn't qualify, plays for SMU
    Khmari Thompson: transferred to Illinois
    Kam Scott: transferred to Houston
    Harry Ballard: transferred to Ark-Pine Bluff
    Dominic Gicinto: in transfer portal 
    2019
    Cjay Boone: in transfer portal
    Maurice Massey: dismissed after arrest for assault
  • Make a prediction in what year will we see an MU player taken in the NBA draft? I don't see any NBA players on the current roster, I see some who will make good money overseas.
  • Pinson has a chance if he develops physically and becomes a more consistent shooter. He's got the athleticism. He needs to add some bulk. 
    I'm not sure about Tilmon. He has some tremendous footwork on the low block. But he's not an elite rebounder or shot blocker. He's got the tools. He's got a nice looking outside shot but rarely shoots from the perimeter. He'd have to expand his game - and he's only got one year left on this stage to showcase those skills. 
  • Given that South Carolina gives up 37 points per game, 3 SC defensive players are opting out of the rest of the season, and Missouri hasn’t played in 3 weeks, this game has the potential of a real offensive explosion. I found one place that has the over/under at 56. Seems a little low to me, but do you think the offenses will dominate Saturday? Can Mizzou generate offense like they did vs LSU and much more offense than they did last game vs Florida?
  • I'm not sure the South Carolina offense can hold up its end of the bargain in a shootout against Missouri. Gamecocks scored 42 against Ole Miss, but the Rebels have been one of the very worst defensive teams in the country all season. On its worst day this year, Mizzou's defense is still better than Ole Miss from top to bottom. A lot hinges on South Carolina's give-a-you-know-what factor. Do the Gamecocks care about this game and/or the rest of the season? Are they playing for anything at this point? If so, then I'd expect a competitive game. They've got issues defensively, but it's a solid offensive line and the running game has been strong most of the year. I think it's got the chance to be an entertaining game if you don't have a rooting interest. And if you do, I'd like Missouri's chances.
  • How many Covid Tests do players take in a week? Are we gonna make SC?
  • Missouri tests three times per week on Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays.
  • I am a Cuonzo Martin fan and feel he should be given every chance even if they are in rebuild mode a little bit. However, I think if the team is similar to how it was last year, even with a slight improvement, naturally you would expect the next years to follow to be rebuilding as you are replacing a lot with no (what appears to be) immediate impact players. Again, I don't think it's fair nor do I agree with this sentiment, but I feel like there will be a push possibly as soon as the end of NEXT season, to go a new direction. Thoughts? And I know there are people saying that now, but I mean that the noise becomes louder and people in positions of power start to feel the heat
  • I think that's a fair sentiment. The 2021-22 will be a rebuild year with so many seniors on the current team, plus Pinson as a junior. His buyout goes down to $3 million in 2022. That's still a lot of money for a revenue-strapped department but more manageable than $6 million.
  • I am really unsure why the weekly questions about HCCM and his status, Besides the financial aspects (which you should simple copy and paste at the start of every chat), he runs a clean program, recruits well, and the kids try hard. I like the hire and will continue to root for him.
    Those factors certainly work in his favor.
    Why did the receiver go in the transfer portal now and not wait until the end of the season?
    Good question. I reached out to Gicinto to talk about his decision and he hasn't replied. He posted his statement on Twitter yesterday but it could be interpreted many ways. He thanked Barry Odom by name and current receivers coach Bush Hamdan but did not mention the current head coach. Drinkwitz is very hands-on with the offense and the personnel there. Gicinto is third-string at the slot position - at best. He's not going to get many snaps over a healthy Jalen Knox or Barrett Banister. From what I understand, at least one walk-on, possibly Boo Smith, has been getting more looks than Gicinto in the slot lately.
    Will Mizzou's 2020 football season bring any positive momentum into spring practice, or are we basically just in a holding pattern until then?
  • Ask me in a month. The season is only half over. You can carry a lot of momentum into 2021 with a 6-4 record as opposed to 3-7 or 4-6.
    You have answered the Fire Cuonzo questions so many times in the past 3 years, I am not going to suggest that MU will fire him if he produces another mediocre record this season. I’m just going to point out that 2 high profile coaches (Muschamp at South Carolina and Marshall at WichitaSt) got multimillion dollar buyouts this week. I know all schools are hurting financially this year, cuonzo only has a $3 million dollar buyout starting May 1, 2021. That seems to me to make this coming season a make or break season to determine whether Cuonzo stays or goes? Personally I have seen enough improvent in recruited players. I know he signed Michael Porter, but he only played a couple of games before he turned pro. I’m in favor of a fresh start May1, 2021 and see if somebody else can do the job that Cuonzo has been unable so far. Given the reason Marshall was fires, I bet MU is happy they were unable to fire him.
    When has Missouri ever paid a hefty sum to get rid of a coach, like what we saw with boosters at South Carolina this week? If a few prominent boosters don't make the move to pay for Muschamp's buyout, he's absolutely on the sideline Saturday. That was less an institutional decision than it was a booster decision.
    Missouri has never really operated that way. Paying a massive buyout to fire a coach has never been the appetite of Missouri's high-end donors. 
    Wichita State's situation was much different with some horrific allegations that had nothing to do with his W-L record. 
     
    Gicinto entered the transfer portal--what does this say about the receiver corps? Should we be worried about the large amount of transfers/lack of quality in Mizzou corps? Or was this more of a case of a corps that is so deep that Gicinto left because he didn't see playing time coming his way? For the record, I liked his game and was sad to see him go
    I can't speak for Gicinto and I don't speculate on what a player is thinking about a decision like this. But he was a junior and third team at his position - behind two other juniors. His role was never going to expand - especially with some freshmen on the roster who were recruited and signed by this staff.
    I'm slowly slowly slowly coming around to the Tigers in the SEC, and honestly understand why they are there (massive instability issues at the time in Big 12, no Big 10 offer)--is there any reason to hope in the future that Mizzou would come back to the Big 12/a conference with more local/traditional opponents?
    Nah. The stability is incredibly important - and stands as the primary reason Mizzou made the move out of the Big 12. There's no reason to think the Big 12 would take Missouri back. Some grudges are hard to break. You don't think it's a coincidence Missouri draws West Virginia and TCU in the Big 12/SEC Challenge instead of a natural, historic rival? It's hard to compete for football championships in the SEC, but Mizzou won as many division titles its first three years in the SEC as it did in its first 13 years in the Big 12, which proved it's possible to thrive in that sport in this conference. As far as men's basketball, the Big 12 is the superior conference - and if you're a middling team in the SEC, you're not going to be any better in the Big 12.
    Dave - Doest the long lay off benefit the growth in learing the offiense for Connor Bazelak in Drinkwitz's system? Since there was not a spring camp and a shorten pre-season camp, I would think the layoff would help him. ThankYou.
    It could help in that regard, but you can also build up some rust in the passing game when you're not used to being tackled or playing at full speed with full contact. I'm writing about this in the coming days, but Power Five teams have played pretty darn well coming off two straight bye weeks this season, especially on offense. It's a small sample size, but early evidence suggests that it's not a bad thing to have an extended break midseason.
    another conference question: why didn't the Big 10 extend an invite to Mizzou? Mizzou seemed to make as much sense as Nebraska did, and seems to be a better fit (to me) than Maryland and Rutgers. Do you think the Big 10 regrets not inviting Mizzou in lieu of one of those three aforementioned?
  • I really don't know how the Big Ten feels about its decision, but at the time, Missouri officials met with Big Ten officials, I believe in North Carolina, and it was more or less to gauge each other's interest. Mizzou to the Big Ten seemed to lose traction at that point - or never really had traction. The Big Ten was focused on Nebraska. Then came Texas A&M wanting to leave the Big 12 for the SEC and the dominoes fell to the point where Mizzou and the SEC entered talks.
    I know I should be surprised but I'm not about South Carolina firing their coach. Everyone's cutting costs and that cost them $12.5M. I doubt they have that laying around in a rainy day fund. The same AD that hired him fired him, so it's not like he was inherited. Why not wait until the end of the year? Now players are leaving the fire sale.

    Do you think he was fired from booster pressure? Because they're not keeping anywhere near the success of in-state Clemson? Will the boosters cover the $12.5M?
    That's a reckless use of money in a very constrained economy. Plus they'll have to pay millions to the next hire, plus assistants.
    Yes, this was a booster move. I also don't know why Ray Tanner, the current AD, should be picking the next head coach. Muschamp was a poor hire - and most people knew that at the time. If you can't win at Florida, how are you supposed to win at South Carolina, where the resources, the history, the traditions, the recruiting, is not nearly as strong? 
    The decision to fire Muschamp midseason - and pay him $13.2 million during a pandemic - is everything that's upside down about college athletics. These same athletics departments are slashing salaries and putting staffers on furloughs - the folks who aren't anywhere near Muschamp's tax bracket - but are willing to pay that enormous sum for someone NOT to coach. The biggest mistake was the extension and raise for Muschamp that made this possible. 
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