Chat all things Blues with beat writer Tom Timmermann

Chat all things Blues with beat writer Tom Timmermann

Tom Timmermann chats live with fans of the 2019 Stanley Cup champions, 11 a.m. Wednesday.

  • Sorry to hear about Jim Thomas. Tom, will you please tell Jimbo that Stan hopes he gets well soon! He may remember me from his NFL chat days. I hope he has a speedy recovery.
  • See? Everyone wants Jim to get better.
    Hey Tom...Like to see the Blues make a move trading Parayko to the Rangers for the #1 pick. I am sure the trade could be added on with other moving parts and draft picks. Like to see the Blues get a young offensive stud like Alexis Lafreniere. Use savings and sign AP. Thoughts? Thanks!
  • Way too many moving parts in this for me. I'm not sure the Rangers would be enthusiastic on this deal, with the chance to gets a really, really good player on an entry-level deal.
    where do you see Petro going if he doesn't sign in Stl. Toronto can't afford him. Colorado could but is it worth it for them given all the talent they have on the back-end that will need raises? Vegas doesn't have cap space. I heard new jersey has 26 million to play with but that team doesn't seem like a strong fit.
    That's the $64 million or so question. Does Pietrangelo really have a desire to live in a fishbowl in Toronto? Would he rather go to a place like Arizona or Vegas where he could help another team lift a Cup for the first time? Vegas has to do something with Fleury, don't they? Otherwise they're going to have $14 million tied up in goalies. But there are a lot of goalies on the market this season, so how easy is it to move him? Colorado seems to have the most things going for it, but while they have a lot  cap space, they also don't have many players signed. (Only 14.) So while they have $22 million to work with, they still have to sign nine players. It remains to be seen what the market for Pietrangelo and other free agents actually looks like this year.
    Mr. Timmermann,

    This is more of a comment than a question, but when the NHL restarted the season, I had doubts it would be completed. Now, not only has the Stanley Cup has been awarded, but the entire schedule was played without a single positive COVID case. I think a lot of credit has to go to the league for a solid plan, and to players, coaches, and staff on teams for having the buy-in and discipline to make it work. I wonder if the league even anticipated this incredible level of success.
    There were a lot of people, in this very chat, who said the league was wasting its time trying to finish the 2019-20 season and should just get started on the 20-21 season. For the record, I didn't agree with that, though, I think I put the chances of them getting through the season at 50-50 or less. There were all sorts of issues, and one of which I remember was that while the players may be in the bubble, what about everyone else? The janitors, the maids, the cook, anyone else you may come in contact with over the course of the day or who might need to be in your room. The league managed to do it, and all without any positive tests. They created a bubble that held and got the job done. It's not practical to do it next season -- this may have cost the league up to $75 million, with nowhere near that much in return -- but getting this season done was an amazing accomplishment. I also remember the fears about players going over the wall and trying to escape. This too didn't happen, and give the players for going along with it under very difficult circumstances.
    Welcome to the newer arrivals to the chat and I'll say now that I'm running low on questions, so here's your chance to ask.
    Is it true that the blues offered petro 8 yr contract for 8 mil a yr and petro is refusing the contract because he wants a no trade clause and the money in signing bonuses ? If so time for petro to move on. Maybe put part of the money in signing bonuses and have a no movement deal in place? At this point I say its time to move on and let petro go.
    Indications are that it is the other things, a No Movement Clause and some signing bonuses are the issue, though I can't rule out some financial concerns. But the financial concerns are more easily dealt with. The Blues don't have a problem with a no-trade clause. Lots of guys have those. But No Movement Clauses and signing bonuses are bridges the Blues historically haven't been willing to cross.
    Petro follow-up. When a player signs a huge signing bonus, is it exempt from getting dinged by the escrow that's taken out of their normal salaries? If it is exempt, that could alter the real value of any offer the Blues would make to him, and Petro's demand for one more understandable.
  • I've been trying to research the answer to this because I don't know. My first impulse would be to say it would be because it's ultimately something paid out by teams to players, but my cursory search on these matters hasn't produced an answer. If it was exempt from escrow -- the amount of money held back by teams from a player's salary to ensure a 50-50 split in revenues at the end of the year -- that would significantly change things, and that's why I think it's subject to escrow too. Otherwise, you'd have a lot more demands for signing bonuses, and it would the escrow even more on the people who didn't have them, which might not be popular with the union rank and file. A world where Alex Pietrangelo gets close to his full salary and Robert Bortuzzo doesn't seems unfair. But then again, who said life was fair?
  • Dropping $8M/year for a 37, 38, 39-year old d-man is gonna SUCK. Just sayin'
    Yes but dropping $8 million on a 31, 32, 33 year-old top-level defenseman isn't that bad. That's the tradeoff on all this. The start of the contract will be good. The end of the contract will be bad. Just look at the Blues roster now. One less year on Steen's contract, or Bozak's contract and things look very different. That last year or two (or three in this case) is always going to be a problem. Players want more years rather than less, and sometimes you have to pay them. Would those deals have been signed if they were for one less season? Would the new AAV have precluded someone else being on the roster? Being an NHL GM isn't easy.
    would the 2019 Blues have beaten the 2020 Lightning
    An interesting question. After dealing with the question of what you do about Pat Maroon, and if we say each team is at full health, I'd probably go with Tampa Bay. They were the best team in the league in 2019 and fell on their face in the playoffs. They learned from that and were better for it. But it then becomes a case of which goalie got hot, and which team was able to assert its style on the other. It would be a very tight series, that's for sure. Dallas played them very close with a lineup decimated by injuries.
    One thing we'll always wonder about this season is how it would have been different if play hadn't been interrupted. I know there's feeling in Boston that they would have done better if the season had been able to keep going. And the Blues likely would have done better too. They never got their footing back after the pause, but would have been much likely too in April. But that's one of the things about hockey. If Tampa Bay loses that first game with Columbus that went to multiple overtimes, maybe they start thinking 'Same old Tampa Bay,' and they make an early exit. It's hockey. 
    Hello, Tom! Love your chats. I know the Blues are in a "win now" mode and rightfully so. Do you think the Blues should try to retain draft picks (unless they trade for more) instead of dealing them away the way we have in the past couple seasons? To me it seems the cupboards could use some re-stocking. Follow up: What position do you see as the biggest need heading into the draft?
    I think the Blues are more likely to add draft picks this year than lose them, since it's cap space they want and not bodies. The only way to do that is to make trades without getting anyone back in return. A trade where you create space by trading a person and have to throw a draft pick to make the deal palatable for the other team is possible, but not something they're probably going to be high on.
    The Blues need more forwards in the system, which is where I would expect them to go with their first-round pick. After Kyrou and Kostin, you've got Poganski, Toropchenko, Alexandrov, McGing and Laferriere as forwards in waiting, and none of them are sure-fire candidates. It won't be easy to get someone who's close to NHL ready with the 26th pick, but that's what the Blues are going to need to look for. 
    OK, that will do it for this afternoon. Thanks to everyone for stopping by. Hopefully we get Jim back with us soon. We should have plenty to talk about next week. Until then, on behalf of me and Jim, thanks for stopping by. And remember, Jeff Gordon has his chat on Friday for another chance to ask hockey questions.
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