Derrick Goold is back from the World Series and ready to chat Cardinals baseball at 11 a.m. Monday

Derrick Goold is back from the World Series and ready to chat Cardinals baseball at 11 a.m. Monday

Bring your Cards questions and comments to a live chat with Derrick Goold at 11 a.m. Monday.

    I think that's a fair way to look at the conversation, yep. Yadier Molina has made it clear to agent that he wants to return to the Cardinals, and that has been the priority for the past, oh boy, 18 months or so? I mean his agent sought them out in spring training 2019 to talk about an extension; his agent met with them a year ago in Phoenix to talk about an extension; his agent came to Jupiter earlier this spring to talk about an extension, and they were going to talk about an extension the week before the start of the regular season -- a week that did not happen do to the coronavirus, and that delayed everything.
    That's largely why the conversation has been that way with Molina because he has really driven that conversation.
    But you're right, there's a chance for them to see about winning elsewhere, or going elsewhere. The Yankees are going to be an intriguing fit for Molina if they have that conversation, and if they are interested how willing they are going to be to change some of their approaches to meet with his preferences. 
    Think what you suggest is true: They can seek a team that has a better chance, in their opinion to win a title, and that they will.
    I would caution you about this assumption: Cardinals aren't the only team cutting costs. Look around the league. It's the trend.
    Waino was amazing this year but are you concerned that the excellent results of the 9 regular season starts he made will get quickly diluted when/if he is asked to start 3x that number of games in '21? Not saying the cost to bring him back is prohibitive but $5MM is $5MM and when I look at having Waino but also having to watch Carpenter at 3rd again, it's not a slam dunk decision with Gomber and De Leon are knocking on the door.
    One conversation to be had with Wainwright is about how a contract looks for a portion of the season, and not the full season. Roger Clemens did that. It's at least worth discussing.
  • I am curious that the Cardinals released Schrock about the same time they did not pick up Wong’s option. Was Schrock caught in the 40-man roster shuffle? Seems like he might have been worth watching as the infield shakes out if Wong does not return.
    They didn't release Schrock. They tried to sneak him through waivers to get him off the 40-man roster, and the Cubs pounced. The timing is interesting for sure because it comes just as Wong was leaving, and there would be a clearer path for Schrock to the majors with Edman not in the utility role and playing second base, or with Edman still in the utility role and Schrock moving to second. It speaks to the Cardinals trying to address the 40-man, trying to time the use of waivers, and also to their view of him on the depth chart. It was not starting ahead of Edman or replacing Edman.
    Saw where Max Schrock was picked up by the Cubs, closing the book on the Piscotty trade, another questionable trade for the Cards. So who plays second when/if Edman plays 3rd? Sosa? Please don’t say Carp will be the everyday third baseman.
    "Another questionable trade for Cards"? Seriously. Stephen Piscotty got to be with his mother in the final days of her life because of that trade. Period. Let's be human. Geez, man.
    Who said anything about Edman playing third if he's the second baseman? Can't do both. Even the Rays haven't invented that shift yet.
    Derrick, what is your view on why the Cardinals declined Wong's option, was it to save $ to re-sign Waino/Yadi, sign other free agents, or neither?
    It was to save money. Period. It was to make a move in a market where they believe they can get a player like Wong or even Wong for less of a guarantee in 2021, and that was the move. They needed to alleviate payroll and Wong was the easiest move at the moment to do it, and they're going to do it again with some non-tenders in the coming weeks. It's really that simple. It's not ideal. It's awful. But they decided to cut costs with the immediate move, knowing that it is doubtful Wong gets a salary like that for 2021, and that he may return to the team with a contract that fits the new landscape. That is possible.
    Looks like there are takers for Wong. I think he signs with the Angels, who like to overpay players.
    They've liked him a long time, for sure. I reported this past weekend that there are several teams that have been in contact with his agent. No offers as of yet, best I can tell. The Angels are one of those teams. This isn't the NBA or NFL or NHL. The market won't move that fast, and not with the non-tender wave yet to come.
    Derrick, two questions about Wong:

    1). Why didn’t the Cards exercise his option and try to package him for a bat? Were they afraid no team would take him at that price?

    2). Could they have negotiated a lower AAV on an extension before the option deadline? If they didn’t, why not? Did they estimate that Edman would give them equal value on the field (with a better bat) at a much lower price?

    Sorry, more than 2 questions but they are all related.
    1) That's not happening in the current marketplace. Sorry. If they could have traded him, they would have done that. There weren't takers, not for that option, and that is obvious with the other options let loose over the past week. Heck, Brad Hand -- Brad Hand! -- slipped through waivers when no team wanted to take on his $10 million option. Why didn't Cleveland trade him? Oh, right, they would have ...
    2) They could have, yes. They did not have those discussions. There are several reasons for this. One, is the rules. If they think the market won't give him a salary for 2021 that is at least 60 percent of what his contract was going to be, then they can wait and offer that -- especially if they can backload the contract with a higher salary once the finances return. 
    The Cardinals want to talk to Wong about another contract. The question is whether he wants to talk to them, or they can compete in a bidding war they now created.
    They did not make that estimate. It's way more simple than that.
    As covered in the Post-Dispatch all summer, the Cardinals had to measure spending $12.5 million for second base or $11 million less to have someone else, like Edman, play it. The question isn't equal value at that point. 
    Who plays you in the Arozarena Biopic?
    I don't know the Cardinals true intent, but if their financials have them looking to ride out both the pandemic and some of the contracts on the books, does it then make sense to trade their more marketable talent (Flaherty, DeJong, Goldschmidt) and regroup for '23 and beyond?
    That is certainly one option. Would not make for a good team, though. The empty stadium would not entirely be because of the pandemic. It would be because of the product at that point.
    Give me a break, Derrick. You just buy whatever the Cards dish out. They could have given Piscotty a leave of absence to be with his mother. They did not have to trade him. And there are a lot of people in this world right now that cannot be with a dying parent, so don’t call me less than human.
    They could? Sure. They could have put him on the restricted list, and let him go -- and not pay him, by rule. Or, they could do a human thing for an outfielder they didn't have playing time for because they acquired Marcell Ozuna. So, they went to Oakland to try and make a deal, any deal possible, and not just took Piscotty to market for the best offer from another team. 
    I didn't get that from the Cardinals, Kevin. They declined to comment on the ins and outs of the trade even after it happened until a while later. The A's offered more detail. 
    Piscotty offered the most. 
    Maybe you doubt his word. That's up to you.
    I didn’t even know about Schrock... why try to slip him through waivers over someone like John N. or cut Ravelo. We needed Schrock...
    Evidently they have a different view of those players than you. That's the reason.
    How did the World Series seem? I mean did it have the same tension, excitement as others you have witnessed? I enjoyed it, actually enjoyed the whole play-offs. It was different for sure, just wondering what it felt like first hand.
  • Great question. That Game 4 was one of the most remarkable games I've ever seen in person. Truly. A great baseball game. Entertaining. Crisp. Drama. Compelling. I found myself on my feet trying to get a better view as that last play unfolded. It was superb -- and yet in the back of my head I wondered how much greater that would have been at Tropicana. That's where it would have been played. Imagine the bounce that fanbase, that area, that whole situation there would have gotten from such a compelling game at their house? I can't shake that. And I think that was missing from the World Series.
    The play on the field and the games between the dugouts were excellent. The atmosphere was not what it could have been -- it was just another reminder of the situation beyond the ballpark. 
    DG,remember when the Cardinals made Second a low priority,and they went through players on low salary and one year contracts? Maybe they are returning to that line of thinking,regarding Wong.
    I do remember that. I think it is a possible outcome here. Yep. Absolutely. Good call.
    Why don’t we see and hear more about the poor personnel decisions made by Mo and or Girsch. I’ve asked similar question to Mr Hummel, but got no answer. The list is long and will get longer. I have little confidence in both execs. Cecil, Gonzales, Ozuna, Fowler, Carpenter, Arozarena, Voit ....horrible personnel decisions. I’ve been a hard core Card fan for over 50 years. Please provide your take on this. Thanks
    What do you mean by more? I just spent several weeks writing about Randy Arozarena. So much so that I've received requests from readers to stop. Ben Frederickson has written extensively about trades that have gone upside down on the Cardinals, and he's had articles looking at the Voit, the cost of signing Fowler to the extra year, and on and on and on.
    I was answering emails this morning and one of the things I struggled with -- and continue to struggle with is how do we satisfy readers who visit the web site on a given day, don't see the story they want, and move on -- when that story was there a day before, a week before, or two weeks before? Do we need to repeat things over and over and over again, and then what does that mean for the readers who do come regularly?
    I struggle with coming up with the right answer.
    I would urge you Gerry to visit the web site and type into the search bar the topics you mentioned, and there will be articles that come up. In past chats, we've definitely spent time pulling apart trades and signings that didn't work, or didn't have the results intended. Cecil is one. Gonzales for sure. Ozuna -- goodness, written a lot about that one. And on and on.
    I would like to confess that I wanted to trade Arozarena over Bader, Thomas, or Oneill last offseason.
    You and the team are in line. I don't know if Bader was part of that conversation. I've said that. I want to be very clear. I do know that the Rays had talked to the Cardinals about O'Neill and when that trade happened I was initially told that it was O'Neill going to the Rays, not Arozarena. That obviously wasn't the case, and that became clear as we tried to confirm the deal before belching on Twitter.
    I selected other in the pole and what I want to see is a team that is capable of playing the highest levels. A Team that can win the World Series and is built to win the World Series. The Cardinals build their teams to be decent if not pretty good and then expect to catch lightning in a jar betting not the upside of a majority of players on their roster who mostly are not high level talents but good players who can play better sometimes. That is like taking a lottery ticket for the World Series every year. It doesn't seem like they are actually trying to win just got the playoffs and see if they get hot. Maybe it works sometimes but it is a broken model and will turn out disappointment and long-droughts when the team is not striking gold.
  • Thank you for taking the time to answer this and explain your viewpoint. I don't always know the difference between a team "built to win" and a team "built to win a World Series," because so, so often I've seen a team that is good suddenly become great in October, and I've seen great, great teams not even reach the World Series. So what's the difference? Clearly, the Dodgers have an exceptional lineup. But their bullpen was not a strength built for the World Series -- it got by with help from Urias. So what is a team that is built to win the World Series? A few years ago, after the 2014 or 2015 exit from the playoffs, I spent a lot of time trying to explore that notion and talked with execs who felt that luck was the addition teams couldn't add via free agency, and the best way to narrow that luck was to spend on depth, spend on certainty, try to minimize the need for luck by gaining steady, consistent production, especially pitching.
    Does that still hold for what you're describing?
    The poll is once again running counter to the tone of the questions. That's fascinating.
  • It's a hard sell for me to believe they have to cut costs. They still have a billion dollar TV contract, still will see the franchise rise in value. There is money to spend. The question is desire not the finances. Thanks for all you and Hummel do!
    OK. They do have a TV contract, but it needs games for them to get paid, and they didn't have games this past year to get paid. So, that was diminished. Second, franchise value? Are they going to sell? If so, then they'll get billions. If not, then -- what? A franchise is only worth the value if you sell it.
    And thanks for the compliment. 
    As you know, Chuck, I don't really have much fondness for the notion of "franchise value." The above statement is why.
    Good Afternoon Derrick - Were you surprised the Cards brought back the entire coaching staff? How much longer would the Cards stick with Albert if '21 looks a lot like '19 and '20 for Cards hitters?
    Yes. There was discussion about bringing a new voice into the batting cage, and whether that meant an added coach or a changed coach -- that wasn't clear. Albert is entering the final season he'll have to prove himself and his approach and that production with the major-league team.
    Do you have any idea when the commissioner will decide whether the NL does or does not have the DH for the coming season???
    Execs with teams like the Cardinals want to know this week, during meetings.
    I have not heard anything new on how many Minor leagues there will be. If I understand right a lot of Rookie, A, AA and some AAA players were put let go for the 2020 season. Will they all be free agents and will there be a mad scramble to sign them once the Minor leagues are reestablished?
    Yes, they will all be free agents once released. You have probably not heard how many minor-league teams there will be in 2021 because baseball doesn't know yet. They don't have that finalized. They are negotiating with some leagues to become college wood-bat leagues, and they are reorganizing others, and there may not be a minor-league season at all in 2021. Period. They may have alloy of minor-league leagues playing in pockets of the country, if possible, or they may turn that development over to teams to create bubble of competitions in Florida and Arizona. There are a lot of unknowns. I know that sentence comes up a lot. But it's the truest thing I can write.
    If you were speculating, would you expect to see record-setting numbers of one-year contracts this off-season? Or will the supply be so high that clubs can maneuver long-term, lower value contracts? Seems like players will be at the mercy of teams this off-season.
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