Derrick Goold is back from the World Series and ready to chat Cardinals baseball at 11 a.m. Monday

Derrick Goold is back from the World Series and ready to chat Cardinals baseball at 11 a.m. Monday

Bring your Cards questions and comments to a live chat with Derrick Goold at 11 a.m. Monday.

    Didnt the cardinals players salaries get prorated for a short season? You say expenditures didnt go down, but I believe that they did by millions. Also, the Cards can use business losses to offset any tax liabilities both forward and backward. This assumes they actually had losses, which we dont know. But hey, stop questioning the cards when they whine about losses. Its not like they used fans' money to build huge developments and gain billions in value...or did they? I guess we'd need reporting for that
  • I didn't say that at all -- expenditures did go down. Of course they did. There was less travel expense, too. Fewer games. Fewer hotel rooms. Fewer flights. In the example I gave I specifically said it was oversimplified, and trying to make a point about the notion of profits and how they cover a zero year. Player expenses went down. They were prorated.
    But other expenses did not change. Loans were still due. Employees still had to be paid. Insurance had to still be paid. Bills still come due. Yes, a significant cost was alleviated by prorated salaries. But that didn't bring the cost for the teams down to zero.
    We do know they had losses. They are an industry that relies on ticket sales and rights fees from broadcast partners. Those were both severely limited. 
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    I appreciate that Mozeliak owned the Tampa trade, but what does that mean? We’ve established many times in this chat that his job is safe. Acknowledging the mistake is only the first step. What do they actually do differently?
    Exactly. And he has been asked to provide that answer as they do it. He said "ranking" their players internally and how that has to change. I countered that it isn't a problem of "ranking" players -- isn't it a problem of getting the most from players? He said that had to be addressed this winter, and there will be followups for examples of what they're doing.
    Just wanted to say thanks for doing these chats. I can't believe the vitriol and confrontational nature of some of the questions/comments. It seems folks could ask the questions without the venom attached. I guess it's a microcosm of our society, but I don't like it. Any gut feeling on which way the Yadi/Waino situations turn out? I feel like 50/50 for each right now.
    I don't have a gut feel or a real guess on either, sorry. I do have a sense of their market. And the chances of Molina returning to the Cardinals is greater right now than him going elsewhere. The Cardinals have to make a non-competitive offer to close that door, and they, to date, have not done that. He wants two years. They can start by being the team to guarantee him two years. And say that's not an issue. As for Wainwright. It's less clear. He's going to have more options. He's clearly going to command a different kind of offer. And that opens the way for him to go elsewhere, if he chooses. He'll probably get the same offer from multiple places, and the timing of the Cardinals moves and his willingness to wait for them will play a part.
    I'm guessing Cardinal fans should feel fortunate that the White Sox gave Grandal that huge contract last year...
    Maybe. I think it's dangerous to start connecting dots with Yadier Molina and he has past connections with. Molina has enjoyed his time being Yadier Molina and not being Tony La Russa's catcher or Albert Pujols' teammates. He has made a name for himself, and he's fine doing it again elsewhere.
    My wife even asked me this year why I wasn't watching many games when I used to watch most if not all. My answer was that unless Jack started, we didn't have anyone that made me want to watch. But, looking back now, not sure if its a Cardinal problem or a baseball problem. What do you think DG?
    I think it's a baseball problem. Kwang Hyun Kim had a pace to his starts that was appealing, and there were a lot of balls in play. Adam Wainwright's starts this year had the potential for entertainment because of that mix of strikeouts and action. Baseball is missing that pace, missing that fun that comes with balls in play. The World Series was a reminder of that honestly. And that's where baseball has to focus. Not on time of game, but pace of play. Not on rules that limit pitching changes, but on rules that get the ball in play more. Not on the number of fielders on one side of the base, but on getting those fielders engaged more often. 
    This is my view, and I'll repeat it again: Baseball turned to analytics to better evaluate talent. Now those analytics are governing how the game is played. It's the tail wagging the dog.
  • I appreciate the response. But we absolutely do not know the cards finances and I believe much of the commentary and reporting assumes far more than we know. Maybe they all had huge losses for years. Maybe they had huge profits. The only thing that’s is certain is that we, as fans, don’t know their finances, and as far as I can tell, neither do you. Perhaps we should all stop pretending that we know their finances, or that the cards have any incentive to be honest about them.
    They don't have a choice on some of them, Old Pete. The Atlanta Braves are owned by a publicly traded company and their finances are disclosed. We can -- and we have -- used that information to get a sense of where the Cardinals fit because they are often in that same area as the Braves, according to club and MLB officials and sources. Moreover, the commissioner recently disclosed his view of how much teams lost this year, and the Colorado Rockies -- as reported throughout the game this past weekend -- sent a letter to season ticket holders that teams, on average, lost $100 million this season. 
    If you believe the Rockies lied to their season ticket holders, then say so. If you believe the commissioner lied in his interview, then say so. But realize there will be ramifications for such lies -- to fans, to media, to investors, to other owners, to the game. 
    But, that doesn't change the fact that Braves will give us a picture into the situation.
    I'm sorry, the idea that baseball is an island of profits in this country of pandemic-reduced spending and economy of that just doesn't seem feasible with any of the information or experts that I've read or talked to. If baseball could make "huge profits" without playing a game, then why didn't they this season? They could have locked down, paid the players zero, laid off workforces galore, and gone Scrooge McDuck swimming their vaults. The logic doesn't square with your stance. If someone can help me do that, I'd welcome the explanation. Truly.
    Do you think the Cardinals will try to win next year with a pitching and defense team rather than increase the offense?
    They need to improve the offense, period. But this will still be a team that contends based on its pitching and defense, and then asks its offense to be, you know, average.
    I tend to agree DG on it being a baseball problem. The only thing I think the Cards are missing and the reason I would make a point of watching Jack is because I felt like I was watching something special or something that had a chance to be special. Having more guys on the team that can make "special play/outings" is something that other teams have that we don't considering our roster construction of lots of "solid" but unspectacular players. I think this drives views and butts in seats more than we think.
    We'll find out. Until 2019 the Cardinals really didn't have the people in seats issue. Those games were mostly packed, and the team brought in the ticket sales. And the ratings were good. The future does not guarantee the same, for sure.
    Have you heard any push to have a hard salary cap and/or a salary floor similar to the NBA? This would be for the next CBA obviously
    Here are two reasons why that has a hard time getting traction in MLB and it touches on Old Pete's frustration a few questions ago:
    -- Players want an open market where they can make what Betts, Trout, Machado, and others make without the cap to depress spending or the wild-card owner.
    -- Owners have some pause about a salary cap because it would mean defining what "revenue" is and opening some of the books to the union in a way they have not before. The negotiations on what defines "revenue" is already one of the most contentious, and this would only make it more so.
    I hope Lane Thomas gets injury-free, illness-free shot at winning a job next year.
  • The Cardinals believe that having COVID-19 may have impacted Lane Thomas more than they or he understood at the time. He definitely had some uncharacteristic moments, and when asked about them the team agreed but did not have much of an answer until recently.
    Derrick, I’m (edited) off at you for allowing the offense to be so atrocious. Why won’t you make the team better? Aren’t you the person who structures the roster?
    I am not. And fans should be relieved to here that.
    The Mets need starting pitching and superb defense in center. The Cards need OF bats. Would a trade of Bader and C. Martinez interest them for someone like Nimmo (preferred by me) or Dom Smith in return? Neither can play center, and Conforto is likely cemented in right. Would this be something StL would entertain?
    The Cardinals would entertain trades of that nature, yes. The Mets have little reason to do so at this point. The Cardinals will be exploring trades like this, but Martinez does not have the traits of an appealing acquisition at the moment. Consider:
    -- He's coming off an oblique injury.
    -- He has years of injury concern now building up.
    -- He doesn't have a certain role.
    -- His salary was set in pre-pandemic market.
    That adds up to a minimal market, and also consider the Cardinals have tried to trade him each of the previous offseasons, too, and that didn't get much traction.
    In response to Justin’s comment regarding only watching when Jack pitches:

    Pitching was the only thing that was entertaining in my opinion. KK was fascinating to watch. Waino was awesome too.
    There were some entertaining games in the 58 for sure, in large part due to the pitching.
    I think the cardinals are lying about not making enough money to cover one year of gate revenues. Their actions in investing, and the billions in gained value since 1996 suggest otherwise. A private company that has its value go up by billions but doesn’t make a profit. I’d like that explained. Truly.
    I missed where the Cardinals said that. I have not head them say that. I did ask during the season if that was the case -- but didn't get a clear answer. Worth asking again. But I have seen no report, no comment, no quote anywhere to suggest they said that.
    Allow me to trade carefully here and suggest that you have oversimplified things, while also answering your own question. What exactly do teams invest, if not their own revenues? Since 1996, the Cardinals have
    -- a new ballpark (value up!)
    -- ownership of several affiliates (value up!)
    -- a billion-dollar TV deal (value up!)
    -- access to MLB revenues from tech advancements, i.e., MLBAM (value way up!)
    -- sales of other teams to show what people are willing to pay for teams (value way up!)
    -- land (value up!)
    All of these things increase the franchise value as you suggest, and some of them do so with the team just sitting there, existing. Like some teams do. 
    The Cardinals have made profits, for years. No one has said differently. Stop moving the goalposts. If you don't give me credit for knowing better, then at least show the respect to fellow chatters.
    Aren't fans who are critical of management just as good of fans as those who are never critical of management?
    I don't believe there is an accepted global metric on fandom.
    How much do the DeWitts influence the baseball operations? Are the meddling or not really involved?
    Bill DeWitt Jr., as chairman and interested party with a fondness for baseball, is heavily involved in baseball operations. Bill DeWitt III is involved in the non-on field business side of the team.
    Any Jordan Hicks news? Seems like its more likely than not that next season involves significant COVID concerns as did this one. Just curious what his status may be.
    He's entering a normal offseason. The rest is unknown at this point. But he is going to be on a throwing program that mirrors a normal offseason, as his rehab entered its final phase, even as it was slowed down due to the lack of pitching for him this year. I don't know what the virus has planned for us in 2021. But it will be part of any decisions, for sure.
    Doesn't it make sense to go bargain shopping for players who you might not be able to afford if not for the pandemic?
    It does. That would be one approach, and I'm eager to see if any team does that.
    I can answer OlePete. The value of my Rickey Henderson rookie card has gone up over the years, but I can't take it to the grocery store to buy groceries. I have to sell it first.
  • This is what my mom tells me about my comic books. I have a comic book that I bought off a rack and its value has skyrocketed in years since. Truly. But my mom likes to remind me it's not worth anything until I sell it. 
    I was hesitant to use the house your purchased as an example, but it is true. You don't have to pull in a profit on your house and yet with actions of your neighbors and the market the value of it can rise and rise by sitting there. Congrats!
    Give other chatters some credit? I’m not the one pushing the narrative that poor Billy DeWitt just has to cut salary or he will be in the poor house. He has gained billions from cardinals nation. The bottom line is that Cards have plenty of money but care more about profits (that we won’t actually see reported anyway) than about winning. Suggesting otherwise is the true insult here
    No one is pushing that narrative because it's false.
    A business cares about profits. The Cardinals, as a business, care about profits. That's not breaking news. 
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