Join Cardinals beat writer Derrick Goold for his live Cardinals chat at 11 a.m. Tuesday

Join Cardinals beat writer Derrick Goold for his live Cardinals chat at 11 a.m. Tuesday

Bring your Cards questions and comments to Tuesday’s 11 a.m. live chat.

    Greetings. Welcome to -- well, it's Tuesday. This is usually Ben Frederickson's spot in the weekly chats here at The Cardinals chat has been relocated here this week. I'll be at the keyboard for the next several hours, taking you toward the pre-game coverage at the ballpark. A heads up: I have one interview that I'll have to do in the middle of the chat here, so I appreciate your patience.
    I know, I know you're used to the witticisms and lyricism and opinions of Frederickson on Tuesday, so I'll do my best to meet that expectation and keep the filibusters to a minimum.
    Too late you say?
    Fair point.
    Beyond the 2022 season, can the Cardinals still option out to Memphis either or both Paul DeLong and Dakota Hudson in 2023 with no fear of losing them to another team like now?
    Not with Paul DeJong, no. DeJong now has too much service time to be optioned back to Memphis. His option earlier this season came just a week or two ahead of when he would have too much service time to make that move -- and that was part of the timing. Hudson will not yet have the five years of service time, and he has at least one option year remaining in 2023.
    Thanks for your Chat opportunity.Two of the three top ERA leaders are former Cardinals. Everything they do doesn’t turn out Rosie your thoughts?
    It takes talent to get talent, and it speaks to two things: 1) How well the Marlins did to read and react to the Cardinals' urgency to land a cleanup hitter and make the most of that deal by maximizing what they got in return for Ozuna and not having to trade the Cardinals' Yelich to make it happen. Good on the Marlins for making that deal. 2) It's another example of how the industry feels about the Cardinals' ability to identify and develop pitching. That is something that the Cardinals do well, have done well for more than a decade now, and have a reputation for doing well throughout baseball. The Cardinals are concerned that other teams have caught up, and that some have even surpassed them by building the pitching lab or being at the bleeding edge of pitch-craft, and the Cardinals want to catch up. But, they have for the past many years been known for developing pitchers, so much so that several teams have populated their pitching staffs with former Cardinals and the rival Cubs hired the Cardinals' draft leader who brought in the rush of amateur talent that later extended a run of NLCS appearances -- and, full circle, provided the pitching talent that made trades (Ozuna, Goldschmidt, Arenado) possible. It's not a surprise that Gallen -- who was seen as a classic Cardinals college pick -- is succeeded, just as Gonzales, Wacha, Lynn, and on and on ...
    Awhile back after Marmol was ejected from a game, he seemed unusually forthcoming about the details of what was said between him and the umpire: ‘he questioned my time in the league…’. Do you think there’s been any retaliation from the umpires to this airing of conversation?
    There has not been. It was broadcast on TV. It wasn't hard to read lips or know what was said. Umpires are aware of that. If it happens on the field, it's a good bet someone is going to decode what was said.
    Cots contracts has the Rockies paying 16 million of Arenado’s salary next year but fan graph has it at 20 million, do you know the actual amount? What do you think is the Cards thoughts on not calling Walker up to AAA? Your podcast with Girsch was one of the best and informative I have ever listened to.
    The guarantee for his 2023 salary is $16 million, according to the reporting/research I've done. I don't know where the number $20m comes from, and it would be best to ask someone at that site for their source. It is possible that the number includes deferred or averages out the payment. There are all kinds of ways for different sites and different outlets and even different teams to look at and report salaries -- some go for the annual average value, some bake in the bonuses, some don't, some spread those out over the life of the contract when they're doing budgets, and deferred payments make it even trickier. But it's a guaranteed payment of $16 million on his 2023 salary. That is, of course, contingent, on him remaining with Cardinals. Rockies save money if he opts-out.
    The Cardinals see Class AA as being on the cusp of the majors, closer to Class AAA than even Class AAA is to the majors, as far as talent goes. And it's not unusual for them to let a top talent remain at one level to close the year -- or wait until the end to just get a dip in the higher level experience. One other thing the Cardinals have done in the past in move top prospects around to participate in the playoffs (ahem, Albert Pujols). Or at least a playoff race. So, no, it doesn't stand out that Walker hasn't moved up to Class AAA. If anything, the Cardinals have given him time to excel at the plate while being challenged in the field and that makes sense.
    Thanks for listening the podcast. It's been discussed for several years and was just trying to find the right timing and the right topic. Glad to hear that the conversation landed.
    Statement rather than question. It defies understanding on my part (and also drives me a little batty) why fans boo when an opposing pitchers throws to first base to check a runner but does not boo our pitcher when he does the same thing, Also, why do some announcers berate fans who do the "wave"? The enjoy it and it cannot affect anyone or any thing, There, am I overthinking this?
    I thought it was a statement and then it became a question.
    To me, wave >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whoo.
    And I recognize my opinion on either matters less than an iota.
    So there we are.
    Thanks for the chat.
    As we are in the home stretch, Pujols is closer to 700 than I think most of us expected. It was a nice story to begin the season, but was probably a long shot. Now that he's given us a great season to cheer for, but if he doesn't get there, is there a difference between 4th all time in HR vs. 4th all time w/ 700 homers?
    I asked this question of Matt Holliday, recently. He, like many others, are openly hoping that Albert Pujols gets to 700 home runs. And I asked -- why is the round number so appealing? What's the difference between 699 and 700? I've often wondered that when it comes to Dale Murphy. He has 398 homers. If he had 400, would the gates of Cooperstown open to him as if he's cracked the code to ancient treasures? If so, goodness, how can two homers be the gap that is keeping someone from that honor? Clearly, we like the tidy, cool, round numbers. But for generations we didn't have an issue saying 714 was the most or 755 with was the most. Those aren't round numbers, and yet they held great gravity. Must be aesthetic as much as any thing. So, yes, if Pujols gets to 698 or 699 that will shine out as the fourth-most all time and be a number that captures his career in three digits. 700 will just look .... rounder.
    We have seen a few teams from around the league lock up and coming top prospects more recently to huge life changing long term deals very early in their professional careers. Do you suppose within the Cardinals organization we might very well see a similar signing or two and sooner than later with such a fairly rich farm system in place now?
    Imminently, does not appear that way. In the next two years, yes. A couple of the leading candidates for extensions c. Spring 2023 will have interesting cases coming back from injury (Flaherty) and coming back from inconsistency (Hudson, Carlson). That leaves open that spring training becomes the time to talk extension with Edman and Montgomery, for example. But, as Walker nears how the Cardinals do what we've seen several other teams do with the pre-arb players definitely enters the conversation.
    Does Tommy Edman have enough starts at 2B yet to be in the running again for gold glove there? And do you imagine voters also seeing his stellar shortstop defensive play on exhibit fairly regularly there too - hurts, help or is sort of neutral in his pursuit of a 2nd top fielding award?
    I hope you don't mind, but rather than rewrite what appeared recently in the paper, I'll provide a link with what's going on as Edman and O'Neill both look to defend Gold Gloves: 

    Cardinals Notebook: Tommy Edman, Tyler O'Neill can defend Gold Gloves, but there's a catch

    STLtoday.comIs it time for Rawlings to award a utility Gold Glove? In this notebook, Edman at shortstop and O'Neill starting in center shapes their ability to repeat as Gold Glove
    Woodford has been looking very solid, not surprising. Do you think he stays with the club through the playoffs.?
    The way the pitching staff is currently constructed, yes. Absolutely. He's provides length and he offers a chase reliever -- that is a reliever who can be used in middle innings when the Cardinals need to chase down an opponent who has a lead. That's the role the Cardinals have been looking for someone to seize, and he has.
    The balanced schedule starts next year. How many victories do you think it will cost the Cardinals.
    Not as many. I think there are two teams in the NL that will see a favorable change due to the balanced schedule -- Colorado (chiefly) and Arizona. Those are two teams in markets smaller than their division rivals and spending less than their division rivals who will have fewer games against the Dodgers, Giants, and Padres. And, yes, while some of those games will be more against the Yankees, Rays, and Red Sox -- there is also going to be the chance for the Rockies, let's say, to face the AL Central more often, which is closer to their level of competition and spending than, say, the Padres and Dodgers.
    The Cardinals are going to lose games against the Reds, Pirates, etc., but still gain games against teams that they line up well with.
    The change for the Cardinals will be when they dial up those expectations and leave the division title bar behind and start aiming for the best record in the NL as the goal.
    Home games have been announced as sellouts but the totals always are different. There's a actual # of seats and I assume a limited # of standing room only tickets. For safety reasons there must be a cap? Team is playing great hope it continues in the playoffs against stiffer competition.
    That's true everywhere. That's partly because of subscriptions and the all-inclusive tickets, as well as the suite attendance. Just FYI. So there's a number for a sellout, and then there is a max capacity. Those are different things.
    Is deyong a candidate for player who needs a change of scenery this off season?
    Shortstop will be a position the Cardinals look at this winter and try to decide which direction they go -- either to Edman, to an outside option, or some combination thereof, and yes, part of that will be exploring trade interest in DeJong.
    This season is rounding out to be pretty fun watching history being chased. I am wondering what percentage chance you think the following may happen:
    Goldschmidt wins MVP
    Pujols hits 700 home runs
    Goldschmidt wins triple crown
    Wainwright wins 200 games
    Judge hits 62 home runs
    Dejong hits .200
    Marmol wins manager of the year
    I'm not good at putting percentages on things. So: strong, would be a good story and sure seems likely despite time running out, would take unexpected events, will happen in 2023, sure whatever, still possibly, and increasing as a possibility, not yet a favorite.

    Any insight into Arenado and his opt-out after the season? I think, after comparing what similarly aged FA's Freeman and Semien received last winter, he is likely to opt-out of the 5/144M due for 23-27 (although worth less because of the 6M per in deferred money for 23-26). I know Heyman reported he is unlikely to opt-out, citing "a friend."

    Usual caveat that I know nothing, simply a big ol' BFIB typing on a keyboard.
    The baseball reporter you mention could be citing the work of local journalists, too, though I don't know if he has a subscription to the Post-Dispatch. I think he follows some local writers. I don't happen to be one of them, so that could also explain why he's missed the coverage on this topic.
    Look, Arenado spoke about next year and the team he would be a part of recently with Rick Hummel. He was lobbying for Pujols to return, and he sure sounded like a guy asking for a teammate to join a lineup that he was going to be in. Arenado has been consistent about this. He has said he wants to call the Cardinals home for a long time. I don't need to quote a friend, because Arenado himself has told several of us local writers how much he enjoys playing in a baseball city, playing for a division title, and being surrounded by history. Pujols being living history and making history in the same lineup has been an example of that.
    Yes, you can see how similar free agents -- as MLB Trade Rumors detailed in a really interesting recent article -- have set the bar higher, and Arenado's play this season asserted his place as longtime chatters know he's always been here: one of the best all-around players in the majors, and arguably the best in the NL.
    That said, Arenado cannot make the decision on the opt out official until later. That's part of the contract, and that's part of what the union will ask him to do. Make it closer to the end of the season, if not several days after the end of the season. So there is still time and talks to be had. All of this I write at the present moment.
    At this point, the Cardinals believe Arenado will remain with them. If that takes talking about a new look or rewrite of the end of the contract, then those conversations have not yet taken place. But Arenado has not said anything publicly or privately that gives the team a sense he's not sticking around.
    That comes from the player and team officials.
    Do you know the all time HR totals/leaders if postseason homers are included? Does it change things up at all? Just curious as I haven’t heard anyone talk about it but seems like an interesting discussion.
    Postseason homers are not included in the numbers. Here are the top five, if you include home runs hit in the postseason (Pujols has 19).
    1. Barry Bonds 771
    2. Hank Aaron 761
    3. Babe Ruth 729
    4. Albert Pujols 714
    5. Alex Rodriguez 709
    The reason why they are not counted toward the career totals is because the postseason is a team achievement, one not every player has the opportunity to reach as often as another player. Yankees do more than Angels, for example. A Cardinals play is going to have been to most postseasons than a Cubs player, and so on. To keep the career numbers separate and uniform they track regular season totals, as all players have access to those games.
    How will 2022 impact Flaherty and O'Neill's arbitration this winter?
    It will be a factor. Being on the field is a plank of any arbitration negotiation. That's part of it. Everyday players have a better case than platoon players, and so on with injuries and missed time. Both will see a raise, but neither will see the potential launchpad probably expected coming out of 2021.
    I think it’s time to let Dylan take over for Nootbaar. Nootbaar has been struggling recently with is numbers in the last going down in the last 30 games. His average is continuing to fall horrible and he’s looking lost at the plate beside getting lucky once or twice the last 10:days.
    In the past 30 games, Nootbaar has a .379 on-base percentage. That plays atop the Cardinals' order, but you're right about it slipping in the past 10 days. It's down to somewhere around .280, so less vaunted, but still high above his batting average, so he's finding a way on base other than just getting hits. He does have three homers in the past 10 games, so there's more than once or twice there, and he had a couple of the loudest/longest outs in Monday's Labor Day dud. Is there an opening for playing for Carlson -- absolutely, and you'll see that with the ebbs and flows of performance.
    Inspired by Edman question.... With the growth of positionless baseball do you ever see a new gold glove position for 'utility' for guys like him and Donavan that just play everywhere?
    That was the thrust of the article above, and yes, it seems to make sense. The requirements would be the tricky part, but the trend of the game is going to make such a honor fit right in with the Rawlings Gold Glove Awards.
    Potential for a lot of travel impact with the new schedule in terms of mileage varying between teams (to say nothing of traveling to London) and how that will affect the way teams plan days off for position players.
    Correct. The 2023 Cardinals will log more airmiles than any previous team. I imagine it won't be close. Just looking at the travel to cover the beat has been eye-popping. I'm going to earn residency at O'Hare, I think.
    Pujols set record for most HR off of different pitchers, and Yadi/Waino are about to set the battery mates start record. Are we enjoying watch records that will never be broken?
    Sure seems that way, yes.
    Starting last Tuesday, the Cards played 6 games and 55 innings (because of Thurs) in which they scored 24 runs. In 10 2/3 innings they faced a left-handed pitcher and scorched them for 16 runs. But in 44 1/3 innings they faced a right-handed pitcher and managed only 8 runs. There are just a lot of really good righties that will be waiting for them in October and O’Neill, Pujols, Carlson, Edman and Molina are dreadful vs righties. That’s 55% of your line-up!!
    Yep. That's what awaits this team, and it's why they have to improve and they're looking for that right mix of hitters to spark the lineup better against right-handed pitchers. This is the question facing the offense -- and has been for a while now. It's not a secret. They know. Opponents know. Media knows. We'll all watch to see how address it.
    Do we know what soured the relationship between Oliver Marmol and Dylan Carlson enough to the point he won’t even play him anymore. If hitting was the issue then getting him more at bats would seem to be the answer not just wasting away on a bench.
    Nothing. Nothing "soured" in their relationship. Carlson struggled against right-handed pitching. He was zooming toward being the player/hitter they expected, handling center field well, and on the upswing from both sides of the plate, especially coming out of the All-Star break. And he hit a skid from the left side. Just a dip in performance at the same time that Lars Nootbaar -- a left-handed hitter who also plays outfield -- was surging. It's math, not relationships. They remain as they were before will be after and always have been ...
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