Join Mizzou beat writer Dave Matter for his live chat at 11 a.m. Thursday

Join Mizzou beat writer Dave Matter for his live chat at 11 a.m. Thursday

Bring your Tigers football, basketball and recruiting questions, and talk to Dave Matter in a live chat at 11 a.m. Thursday.

    Hello, there my chat friends. No technical difficulties or lost wifi or press conferences today (knock on wood), so let's get started.
    Thanks as always for the chats. Just curious will Drink have a “NIL” coordinator just for his players to consult, or will it be an athletic Dept position? Seems like there’s a lot of unchartered territory to get through and it might be best for the Dept to have designated contact folks (for all sports) in order to minimize the confusion and maximize the potential benefits.
    I touched on that in last week's Q&A with Jim Sterk. The athletics department is budgeting for a full-time NIL coordinator to hire for the next fiscal year, which starts July 1. Until then, deputy AD Andy Humes, who oversees the compliance department, is the point man for NIL matters. There will be a lot of work and oversight involved.
    Enjoy reading your stories regarding Missouri football and our coaches successful recruiting in Missouri. Any updates on the class 2022? Keep up your excellent reporting. On a side note I know when coach Pinkel supported the players in their demonstration a number of years ago a number of narrow minded people in our state were turned off. My own thought was his actions showed total support for his team and this would be used to attract athletes to Missouri. Your thoughts.
    Thanks for the note. Mizzou still has some high-profile recruits on the radar for 2022. Lots of work to do. If you have any questions about specific players I'd be happy to address. I don't cover the ins and outs of recruiting on a daily basis like the recruiting sites, but I'll do my best.
    As for Pinkel and 2015, he and I covered a lot of ground in our book and spent more time on the 2015 chapter than any other part of the book. We made sure to tell that part of his story with complete honesty with an accurate timeline. There were clearly a lot of different opinions during those weeks in 2015 - and a lot of agendas and mistruths, too. 
    It’s great to see so many returning softball seniors, but should be concerned about talented young players transferring when they don’t get playing time next year?
    That's always a risk, but remember, those young players gain a year of eligibility, too. If you were a sophomore on the 2021 team, you are technically a sophomore again in 2022. Larissa Anderson is thrilled to have the seniors back for another run.
    I get why the expansion to a 12 team playoff is good for Mizzou. But if we're being realistic, no one outside the top six even has a chance. The teams with a legit shot are exposing themselves to additional injury risk with the expanded format - further diluting the potential title game.
  • I disagree. There will be upsets. Either way, more games is good for the game. The two weekends of first-round games then the quarterfinal games will be bigger and better than anything the postseason has delivered, maybe ever. Yes, there are injury concerns. But it's a violent sport. If you're worried about getting hurt, play golf.
  • The two commitments from Tulsa ... do you consider them a net improvement over the defenders Mizzou lost to the portal or is it a wash?
    Good question. Jarvis Ware was a good SEC cornerback. Jadarrius Perkins had never played in the SEC but he's good enough to field multiple SEC offers and ended up at Florida. 
    Akayleb Evans had some impressive offers, more so than Allie Green.
    Not everybody loves Pro Football Focus, but here are some PFF grades to consider for three corners who have played at the FBS level:
    Overall defensive grade
    Evans 73.1
    Ware 63.7
    Green 49.7
    Coverage grade
    Evans 72.5
    Ware 61.6 
    Green 47.0
    Overall defensive grade
    Ware 62.3
    Green 58.7
    Evans 54.6
    Coverage grade
    Ware 59.6
    Green 58.2
    Evans 53.9
    Interpret those ratings as you will. 
    If you could set up a tournament featuring the best Mizzou men's BB teams over the years, playing under today's rules (shot clock and 3 pt line), where would you put your money? Personally I'd bet heavy on the Stipo, Sundvold, FRAZIER, Bridges, Moon teams of the early 80's.
    Many other fine teams with D. Smith, Peeler, Chievous and others.
    Thinking about it makes me miss having really good basketball ay Mizzou.
    Thanks for chatting.
  • Fun question. Stipo was so skilled as a big man and dominant in the post. Sundvold didn't have the luxury of a 3-point line in college but proved in the NBA he was as good as anyone from deep.
    Doug Smith would have thrived in today's game as a big man who could shoot from outside. I wish he could have gotten a mulligan on his NBA career. Two things worked against him: He had a new coach just every year he was in the league and they all had different ideas of who he should be in the NBA. Two, he gained a lot of weight trying to bulk up to be an NBA post player and it took away his strengths as an athlete and mid-range shooter. He could have been a prototype stretch four in today's game. Pair him with an electric high-usage guard like Peeler and that's a dynamic tandem.
    The 1993-94 team was a great team, but I don't think it was as skilled or athletic as some of Norm's earlier great teams.
    I'd probably take my chances with Smith-Peeler and the rest of their supporting cast. 
  • Is it tough to scratch together stories about college athletics this time of year?
  • Not really. There's always something to write about in college sports. But I take my foot off the gas a little bit this time of year. Things will get plenty busy once I'm back from vacation in late July.
  • Will Mizzou football host a pride game this fall in support of the LGBTQ community across the state? It would mean a lot to people like me.
  • Good morning Dave,
    You weekly chat and pod-casts are great. You do a thorough job of MU coverage. Thanks!
    Have you considered doing a weekly radio Q&A sports open line type of radio show on a STL and or KC station? Myself and others would listen attentively. Talk to me. John L
  • Thanks for all the interest. No radio gigs for me right now. I've done paid hits on a couple St. Louis radio stations over the years but nothing currently. I'm always willing to listen to offers.
  • Hey DM,

    Read your chats in Papua, Indonesia each week. I’m finally stateside and can join in.

    I don’t have a great question, but it’s my time to live a little…

    Even with all the optimism with MIZ, it seems we will forever be behind the funding of most SEC schools as far as budgets? Why is that? How do these other SEC schools secure so much more money?

    Also, I feel Mizzou would have been a better fit with the Big 10. Any insight on how close that came to fruition and what ultimately prevented that from happening. I wonder if the Big 10 regrets the inclusion of Nebraska over Mizzou. I know it’s water under the bridge but…

    Love your work…cheers
    Thanks for joining us today.
    The biggest difference between Mizzou and the richest athletics departments in the SEC come down to ticket sales.
    Here are total athletics revenue figures for SEC in the 2019 fiscal year per USA Today's annual database. (Vanderbilt figures aren't available.)
    Texas A&M $212,748,002    
    Georgia $174,042,482          
    Alabama $164,090,889        
    Florida $159,706,937           
    LSU $157,787,782      
    Auburn $152,455,416           
    Kentucky $150,435,842        
    Tennessee $143,765,903    
    South Carolina $140,695,659
    Arkansas $137,497,788       
    Mississippi State $112,273,809    
    Mississippi $108,442,428   
    Missouri $106,610,244        
    Where is the biggest discrepancies? Here are the breakdowns for the three biggest SEC money-makers divided up into ticket sales revenue, contributions revenue and rights/licensing revenue. (Here's how USA Today defines that final category: Revenue for athletics from radio and television broadcasts, Internet and e-commerce rights received from institution-negotiated contracts, the NCAA and conference revenue-sharing arrangements; and revenue from corporate sponsorships, licensing, sales of advertisements, trademarks and royalties ... also revenue from food, concessions and parking.
    School: Ticket sales, contributions, rights/licensing 
    Texas A&M: $49 million, $85 million, $67 million
    Georgia: $36 million, $52 million, $71 million
    Alabama: $39 million, $7 million, $77 million
    Missouri: $16 million, $27 million, $55 million
    So, clearly, there's a huge difference when it comes to ticket sales. The contributions category fluctuates from year to year because some years include a major fundraising campaign for a specific project. Alabama's contribution number was very light for 2019 ... but was in excess of $29 million for every year for the prior decade.
    Bottom line it comes down to fan support. You climb those rankings when your fans buy more tickets, eat more hot dogs at games, buy more T-shirts and donate more money. 
    Is Missouri prepared to lead on "NIL?" Did you get the impression from your talk with Sterk that Missouri is in a good position to manage the transition to its advantage or will the AD be content to allow other schools take the risks and then be the copycat?
    Good question. Mizzou partnered with Opendorse as its third-party NIL company nearly a year ago - and was way out in front of the pack. As of last week, only about 150 of MU's 550 athletes had requested an evaluation for their NIL potential from the school's third-party company that will oversee NIL endorsements. I get the impression Mizzou is still in the education phase when it comes to informing athletes how the process will work. (Some MU athletes have started posting messages on social media saying they're open to discussing endorsement opportunities from interested parties.) The coaches at Mizzou are certainly talking to recruits about NIL potential. It's part of Drinkwitz's sales pitch. But there's still a lot of uncertainty on how the process will work. Lots of unknowns.
    As of right now, it appears that the Tigers have three big non-con games this year (other than the Jacksonville Classic games): Kansas, Utah, and Iowa State. If you were a betting man, what would you bet on the Tigers' record in these games?

    Who do you predict to be the team leaders in points, rebounds, and assists?
    I would consider Illinois a big non-conference game.
    A 2-2 split in those four games would be OK. (at Kansas, at Iowa State, Utah at home, Illinois in St. Louis). Kansas will be a top 10 team. Utah and Iowa State are rebuilding. Illinois lost some major pieces last year's team but should be talented again. 
    It's really hard to predict stat leaders for a team with only two returning rotation players. The easy answer is Kobe Brown for points and rebounds and Boogie Coleman as the assists leader. But I don't see this team having one major scorer who carries that load all season. Coleman can score. Davis can score. Brown can score. Brookshire might have to score. Pickett can get hot and be an effective scorer. 
    Looks like drink is starting to create some noise nationally. What kind of year is needed to keep up this momentum. Also if mizzou plays to a 8+ win season and continues recruiting success, is any of his staff at risk for bigger job?
    I wouldn't think a seven- or eight-win season would dull the recruiting buzz because, remember, this staff created that buzz without much in the way of on-field results. A winning season would build on last year. Now, if the 2021 team takes a big step backward - I'm talking 5-7 or worse - then you'd have to be concerned about losing the interest of high-profile recruits who have offers from strong programs.
    Will a good season drive up the market for some coaches on this staff? Sure. Mizzou pays its coaches well but other teams pay more. And if a coach or two leaves, that's not a bad thing. There's not a coach on this staff who's irreplaceable. Heck, 30 percent haven't coached a game at Missouri. 
    But, and I've been making this point for a few weeks, I think the 12-team playoff removes one of the reasons some coaches might leave a program like Mizzou. 
  • Happy rainy Thursday Dave,
    With the Supreme Court's recent decision about universities not being limited on what they can potentially provide instead of the typical scholarship, room, board, etc., what would you expect the schools to start throwing at recruits to get them in?
    One site mentioned tutors, but I thought that was standard stuff.
    How much attraction does a graduate school scholarship or the chance to study abroad garner?
    Is anything and everything on the table short of directly paying them?
    Will this helpt the haves (Alabama) while hurting the have nots?
    Great question. First of all, the main upshot of the Supreme Court ruling is that it opens the door for other benefits to be allowed - or, more specifically, closes the door on the NCAA prohibiting other benefits.
    Teams can now offer athletes laptops/iPads and other educational items and allow them to have approved internships. I'm sure some teams will find loopholes. But the schools also must have the money to pay for those laptops and decide there's an upside to offering athletes those benefits. A place like Mizzou, operating at a deficit the last five years, doesn't just have piles of cash lying around that are going unspent. 
    Maybe a football player who's on campus just to prepare for the NFL draft isn't interested in studying abroad or graduate school, but there are plenty of track athletes, swimmers, gymnasts, etc., who realize they're not competing professionally who would gladly welcome such benefits. 
    Seemed like when visits resumed earlier in the month things sort of took off and a lot of stuff going on but not many signings. Are players still coming to campus for visits? Will this continue until players start practicing for the season?
    Well, recruits can't sign until December, so they couldn't sign now even if they wanted to.
    Mizzou just landed three immediately eligible transfers last week. Some other targets signed elsewhere. I wouldn't expect much more movement for 2021additions.
    As for high school recruits, it's still early in the process. Most of these high-profile targets have lots of visits scheduled deep into the fall. Mizzou is still hosting 2022 and 2023 recruits daily until the dead period starts next week. 
    Some think the SCOTUS ruling against the NCAA will open the floodgates of paying college players. Suppose a school starts paying “revenue sport” players. Shortly afterward, there’s a lawsuit demanding payments for players in all sports. Seems like schools would have to think long and hard about the consequences before going down that road.
    I don't think many reasonable people who understand how all this works expects schools to start paying athletes salaries anytime soon. It's just not feasible financially. There are too many athletes in too many sports. College programs would have to completely restructure to even pay their athletes minimum wage. They'd have to dismantle their coaching staffs and administrative staffs. They'd have to curb spending for recruiting, facilities, equipment, etc. And almost certainly eliminate some teams.
    Just to play with the numbers. Minimum wage in Missouri is $9.45. Mizzou has 550 athletes. Not all on full scholarships, but let's use that number. If they're paid to work 40 hours a week that's an annual salary of $19,656. That's not much, but multiply that times 550. That's $10.8 million. That's about 10% of Mizzou's athletics budget. 
    Is it doable? Of course. College football teams don't need 30 coaches and analysts. But the cuts will come elsewhere and change how departments operate on a daily basis. 
    Right or wrong, that's a dramatic change. And college sports has always been slow to change. 
    Good almost afternoon, Dave.

    Comment first --- I hope the athletic department sticks to athletics (novel approach) and does not get itself involved in various social and political issues (e.g. this Day and that Day). We watch and enjoy sports of all kinds to enjoy a respite from all the "stuff" going on these days.

    Questions --- where is the athletic department in terms of football season tickets (new and renew) versus same time frame in 2019? Would love to see the department intro an "Olympic Sports Season Pass" that would include volleyball, track/field, women's soccer, baseball, et. al. Maybe not every event, but select events on the schedule.
    As of last week, Jim Sterk said Mizzou is outpacing its 2019 sales figures but didn't have specific numbers available. Renewals are up. New sales are up.
    As for the Olympic sports pass, I've got good news for you: MU doesn't charge admission for track, swimming, soccer, golf, tennis. 
    Mizzou football always hosts a Military Appreciation Day. I suppose you'd like them to stop that tradition? 
  • Hey Dave: My best has a nephew who currently plays football at a Big Ten school. He's going to be a senior and is unsure if he'll use the extra year after that. My buddy has another nephew (the brother of the aforementioned player) who is going to be a senior in high school and has a lot of interest from some Big Ten teams and a lot of mid-majors, and my friend told me that according to the younger nephew, this is one of the worst times to be a recruit because there's so much uncertainty thanks to the extra year and coaches not knowing how their rosters will unfold. What have you heard on this front, and how challenging is it for coaches and recruits?
    Yes, this is a challenge for a lot of teams, a lot of coaches, a lot of players and recruits, especially once scholarship limits are put back in place next year. Excuse the cliche, but the NCAA was stuck between a rock and a hard place when the pandemic set in and forced teams to cancel seasons. Either you shorten the careers of current athletes or risk headaches for coaches and future athletes.
    It cause a huge issue for college baseball teams this year. Mizzou had 55 players on the roster - 20 more than usual. Clearly it didn't help on the field at Mizzou but it turned roster management into a huge challenge for the coaches and surely impacted how teams prepared for the season. 
    Is the NCAA ever going to come down on Kansas for the Addidas shoe payment scandal that was proven happened? Why have no sanctions come down on them?
    The simple answer is that there's a backlog of cases. Creighton was sanctioned this week. KU is in line. At some point there will be some sort of sanctions announced. I'm not sure I'd hold my breath if you're expecting a scorched earth response from the NCAA, but you never know.
    Does the SC ruling allow schools to provide a recruit a car or money, things that used to be provided to star players under the table, only now it’s legal? Is this going to erase the current money payment scandal that Kansas and Bill Self are fighting tooth and nail? What about coaches who have already been fired like Arizona’s Sean Miller?
    Short answer, no. Justice Gorsuch made it clear in his opinion: "Under the current decree, the NCAA is free to forbid in-kind benefits unrelated to a student’s actual education; nothing stops it from enforcing a 'no Lamborghini' rule."
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