Join Mizzou beat writer Dave Matter for his live chat at 11 a.m. Thursday

Join Mizzou beat writer Dave Matter for his live chat at 11 a.m. Thursday

Bring your Tigers football, basketball and recruiting questions, and talk to Dave Matter in a live chat at 11 a.m. Thursday.

    Greeting, chatters. Let's get to this. Lots of questions already. I'm sure there will be lots of bowl discussions.
    I agree that Mizzou needs more from the QB position in 2023, but Oklahoma's quarterback play this year wasn't the main problem. The Sooners had a top 20 offense. Dillon Gabriel threw for almost 3,000 yards plus 24 touchdowns and only six interceptions. OU's problem was defense. Caleb Williams has been incredible at USC and will probably win the Heisman, but had he stayed at OU, that wouldn't have solved its defensive issues.
    Good morning Dave,
    Kobe Brown, so far this season, seems to be out of sink with role on the team. His performance is inconsistent. What gives? Is Coach trying to have Kobe play to many roles? Is he a 5 or 4, or a 4 or 5? Does he need more minutes even if he fouls out? Let him play 75% of the game. Your opinion?
    I think we have to look at Brown's role differently for one main reason: He's surrounded by much better talent and deeper talent. At his best he's probably not a star player on a good team. He can be a very good player on a good team. But this team has guards - good guards. This team has another capable 4/5 in Noah Carter. They can without Kobe Brown putting up All-SEC numbers. The fouls are still an issue, but unlike last year, this team doesn't crater when he's on the bench.
    On Tuesday, Gates kept Brown on the bench by choice down the stretch. WSU was double-teaming him constantly and he just couldn't get into a good flow. The ball moved better with Carter on the floor with four guards. That doesn't mean Gates will stick with that group every game that gets late, but that was a classic case of if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 
    A question and an opinion that I’d like you to comment on:
    Q: is a player allowed to transfer as often as they want without sitting out a year? For example, a new school each year of eligibility?
    My comment: previously the main reasons that a player would transfer were the expectation of more playing time, and/or to be near their home and family. Now the NIL and relaxed transfer rules have added new considerations. I suspect at present that players transferring into MU will more likely will do so for the “old” reasons, and those transferring out will often due so in expectation of better NIL opportunities. Or to put more accurately: greater income particularly in regard to top tier players.
    Of course, some will leave MU primarily because they expect to play more (example Tyler Macon) but with MU lagging behind the elite programs in NIL I can see where a Dominic Lovett may be more motivated by NIL money. Of course, elite programs win more than 6-7 games per season which in turn perpetuates NIL opportunity.
    Exposure to NFL scouts isn’t going to vary much in Division I so I don’t think that is a big factor.
    Thank you, Dave.
    To answer your question, here's how the rule stands now: A player can transfer one time between Division I/four-year programs without having to sit out a season and will get immediate eligibility at his second school. If they've already transferred previously, they'd have to receive a waiver from the NCAA to have immediate eligibility at their third school. There is an exception to this one-time waiver if their previous transfer was due to the discontinuation or no sponsorship of their sport at their original school.
    There will be transfers who come to Mizzou for NIL reasons. Keep this in mind: Current upperclassmen at four-year schools were recruits before NIL was allowed. So if you're going into your senior year at State University, you weren't induced by NIL payments when you signed your letter of intent - at least not legally. Meanwhile, the freshmen and incoming freshmen on your roster were recruited during the legal NIL era, meaning they might have better deals/more NIL income than veteran players who are more established college players. Those upperclassmen might want to experience the recruiting process all over again to tap into the NIL market that wasn't available when they were recruits.
    Football first, with cook improving , which is great that creates a possible dilemma. Obviously Horn isn't the answer or he would of got some playing time. There are already good QBS in the portal with more to come. I just wonder if a proven QB who might have become a backup at a power 5 school would consider MIZZOU knowing Cook is entrenched as the starter. I see no reason Horn stays. Basketball, not sure if we can beat the great teams but this Mizzou team is physically and mentally tough. Reminds of Storming Normin teams, bring your lunch pale and go to work. I hope Mosley is doing okay, I admire that young man he totally bought in to Gates system, which is a great system
    Why would Horn transfer? I don't believe he ever expected to play this season. He still has four years of eligibility and should have a chance to compete for the job this offseason. 
    Will Drinkwitz recruit a transfer QB? I think it depends on the market. If there's someone out there who's an obvious upgrade, it makes sense to explore the market. There will be intriguing options. Michigan's Cade McNamara and Ole Miss' Luke Altmyer are in the portal. Cook showed promise late in the year. Enough promise to go into 2023 with him as the clear-cut starter? Sounds like a decision for a man whose salary is about to increase 50% to $6 million a year.
    Has Mizzou Bball received any verbal commitments for next year? If so hopefully they are big men as that appears to be the need.
    I'm not going to go as far as others and claim that the transfer portal is ruining college football, but it does make it harder to be a fan, especially of a rebuilding team. You go through a season trying to pick out building blocks for next year and signs of progress to build hope on, and then it vanishes with a few goodbye tweets. I guess recruiting never stops, even with players already on the team. It's almost a wonder that any new coach makes it past their first 3-4 years. I guess fans, more than ever, need to just focus on cheering for the laundry?
    I understand the frustration. I also think if your team does a good job recruiting the portal and adds more quality than it loses, fans get over that frustration once the season kicks off. Did any Mizzou fans have trouble rooting for Ty'Ron Hopper or Kristian Williams or Joseph Charleston this season? Of course not. They were pivotal transfers the staff went out and landed last year. 
    Drinkwitz beat the portal in 2022. The only real player of significance they lost was Mekhi Wingo, who's going to be first-team All-SEC on my ballot this week. But the staff went out and landed far more impact starters that transformed the defense into one of the best in the SEC.
    I was very impressed with the fight in the BBall team after the scoring runs Wichita State put up. I don't think last year's team even comes close to making that kind of comeback. They definitely are a more exciting team to watch and seem to have several leaders on the floor. My pre-season hope was to see progress with an NIT bid this season, but can I start stretching a little and hope they could sneak into the Big Dance?
    Two points: I agree on being impressed with Tuesday's comeback. I struggle to call it a comeback because watching courtside I never once sensed Mizzou was out of the game - and they certainly never believed or acted like they were out of the game. They only had about 7,500 in Koch Arena, but that place gets LOUD when the Shockers go on a run. They could have put the game away about three minutes into the second half. 
    But I was really struck by the scene I wrote about the next day. In the middle of that 16-0 run, Gates called a timeout, Gomillion jumped up from the scorer's table, nodded his head at the five guys on the floor, told them to settle down and almost had a smile on his face. It was too loud to hear what he said, but his body language essentially said, "We're good. Settle down. We got this."
    And they did.
    They made a a few defensive adjustments, hit some big shots, got to the rim and to the foul line and .... you can't discount the reality that WSU choked at the foul line. 
    Outside the locker room I mentioned to Gates I've rarely seen a team look so calm down 10 on the road in an environment like that. He made an interesting comment: He intentionally watches his own body language and stays composed during bad times like that - because he knows his team is watching him to see how to respond themselves. That's subtle but excellent coaching.
    Second point: This is inevitable, but there's no sense in turning every positive this season into a refernedum on last year's negatives. This team is far more 2012-2022 Cleveland State than it is 2021-2022 Mizzou. Other than a lot of Kobe Brown and a little Ronnie DeGray and even less Kaleb Brown, this team has nothing to do with last year's team. So it's an illogical comparison.
    Also, last year's team trailed SMU by 13 points in the second half and won by five in OT. That was a decent 24-win SMU team that beat Houston. So, yes, last year's team had a similar win.
    I think the Tigers should get out of the SEC. Missouri can't compete in either of the major sports (football or basketball). They struggle in the hope of getting to .500 and qualifying for a minor bowl game. they can't recruit the top talent because those players want to go to the top 10 ranked schools. Because of their record, they play to half empty stadiums and the booster are hesitant to donate the money needed to increase the program. In the Big 10 or Big 8, they may not be able to beat Ohio State nor Michigan, but they could go 10 and 2 or 9 and 3 and become a force again., I was happy that they reached 6 and 6 this year and that they fought hard and actually competed with Kentucky and Auburn, but the truth is that they are seriously outmatched in the SEC.
    1. Missouri's not leaving the SEC.
    2. The football team's home attendance this season was the best since 2015.
    3. Drinkwitz signed back-to-back top 20 classes and supplemented those classes with impact recruits. 
    3. This basketball team has shown some real promise and could make some noise in the SEC.
    4. Missouri's not leaving the SEC.
    Three questions: 1. I have my KU game tickets and I am pumped!!! What chance do you give MIzzou beating the beakers? 2. Cade McNamara to the ZOU. thoughts?? 3. You will have this multiple times I am sure, but... what bowl game??
    1. KU is certainly more tested with wins over Duke, Wisconsin and NC State but struggled with turnovers and 3-point shooting in the Tennessee loss. Can Mizzou win? Certainly. Mizzou Arena will be bonkers. Will Mizzou win? Find out in nine days.
    2. Here are McNamara's 2021 passing stats vs Power 5 opponents (Big Ten plus Washington & Georgia): 12 TDs, 6 INTs, 134.3 passer rating, 187.4 yards per game. He's strictly a pocket passer and doesn't produce rushing yards.
    Here are Brady Cook's 2022 passing stats vs. Power 5 (SEC & Kansas State: 6 TDs, 6 INTs, 126.4 rating, 195.6 yards per game. Cook also ran for 547 yards and six TDs. So you get the dual threat factor with Cook. A little more passing efficiency with McNamara. 
    Is that an obvious upgrade? I don't really see it.
    3. I'm sure we'll get a lot of bowl questions. Really not hearing any buzz on Vegas any longer. Sounds like they want a team with a better record. Liberty still a possibility, but Arkansas could be headed there. Texas Bowl vs. Big 12 is an option. Along with the two spillover SEC bowls: Birmingham or Gasparilla (Tampa). Once the SEC Pool of Six is filled out with their SEC teams (Texas, Music City, Liberty, Las Vegas, Gator, Outback/Reliaquest) then ESPN Events selects participants for the Birmingham & Gasparilla. I'm told there isn't necessarily a pecking order between the two. My hunch would be Mizzou would prefer Tampa before Christmas (Dec. 23) instead of Birmingham after Christmas (Dec. 27).
    There is a lot to like about the portal additions Coach Gates brought to the Basketball Tigers. So my question is, how many more years can these guys potentially play? The Covid year has made figuring this out a little tricky.
    There are three players who have no eligibility beyond this current season:
    D'Moi Hodge, DeAndre Gholston and Tre Gomillion.
    Five other juniors/seniors have another year of eligibility - the COVID year - if they want to use it for 2023-24: Kobe Brown, Sean East, Nick Honor, Noah Carter and Isiaih Mosley.
    Happy Thursday! Heard any talk yet of what bowl game the Tigers will be playing? My friend and I are talking of attending as part of our Xmas gift to each other.
    I just touched on the bowl situation a few questions ago. If I get more intel over the next couple hours I'll surely pass that along.
    Hello Dave

    Initially when Drink recruited East STL he was lauded for finally getting East STL and STL recruits. But with Macon and Lovett leaving as well as Wingo.....this cannot be good. I don't see how anyone can spin this positively when, your top receiver leaves and won't be taken well in East STL. Can you spin this well? Is Drink in over his head?
    Wingo? Mekhi Wingo? He went to De Smet and wasn't from East St. Louis.
    I really don't see how the Lovett situation hurts Mizzou in East St. Louis. He is going to be an All-SEC player this year. It's not like Drinkwitz kicked him off the team. He put the ball in his hands more than any other receiver. If he wants to play somewhere else and make more money in NIL, I'm not sure how a whole town and/or high school can hold that against Mizzou. He very well could go to a school that didn't recruit him out of high school and only did after he produced in Mizzou's offense. 
    As for Macon, he was never going to play quarterback here. He just didn't develop into the passer the staff wanted to see. I'll be surprised if he's a Power 5 starting quarterback someplace else. He could have switched to receiver and had a role at Mizzou, but he clearly wants to see if he can play QB somewhere else.
    Do you think Mosely made a big mistake for coming home?and I don't see how gomillion comes in before him.
  • I'm not sure why it matters when he comes in the game. Mosley is averaging 19.7 minutes per game. Gomillion is averaging 20.3. 
    Gomillion is much better and more versatile defender. He's a crucial piece to this team. Mosley can be a crucial piece. 
    I'll make a prediction: By season's end, Mizzou fans who watch the games closely will wish Gomillion had another year of eligibility. Also, if he doesn't want to explore a professional career, he'll be on Gates' staff sooner than later. 
    A quick note: I've got a big story I hope you'll enjoy hitting STLtoday.com early Friday morning. I was fortunate to have some unprecedented access to ... let's call them archives ... of a noteworthy couple weeks in Mizzou history for what I think is an interesting and timely story. 
    On a possibly related noted, I'll be in Las Vegas next week to cover Gary Pinkel's induction in the College Football Hall of Fame. We'll have multiple stories online and in print. 
    Is Dom Lovett mainly chasing a better NIL opportunity, or is he unhappy with his role at Mizzou?
    I reached out to Lovett and he hasn't responded. 
    From conversations I've had with people close to the situation, NIL is a factor. There were NIL opportunities had he stayed. He's pursuing other options.
    He's third in the SEC in catches. From Mizzou's end, the coaches made it clear he's a centerpiece to the offense. This year's stats are hard to ignore. But maybe he wants to go somewhere with other pieces. 
    Here's one thing that's unfortunate about the transfer process: Players rarely - almost never - agree to interviews after they announce plans to transfer. It leaves a lot of unanswered questions and a lot of speculation. 
    What is the men’s basketball’s strength of schedule after the last game? I know we were bottom 3 in D1 prior to the game Wichita state.
    As of today:
    KenPom: No. 355
    ESPN: No. 355
    Barttovirk: No. 343
    It's not something to worry about. In about five weeks, Mizzou will have games against Kansas, Illinois, Kentucky, Arkansas. 
    Mizzou is now 8-0 and I have not had one game on a TV channel among the 200+ to which I have access. I understand and appreciate why Coach Gates started with a very weak schedule, but the AD must never let this situation happen again. The first game which will be widely available will be KU and I will have to have a roster printed out to keep up with who is on the court.
    Sunday's game against SEMO will be on regular SEC Network.
    What’s going on with Mosely? Not much playing time for one of the most recruited transfers. I’m hoping that his lack of playing time doesn’t make him regret his decision to come play here. Does he have a super senior Covid season left?
    He's missed two games. I asked Gates if Mosley was feeling sick on Tuesday night and I published his entire answer. I'm not going to speculate on his situation, but he clearly is working through an issue. Not discipline related. Not an injury. 
    Gates: “Isiaih is just working through some personal things, and I want to give him privacy at this moment. But there's nothing behavioral, there's nothing from a standpoint of anything else or an injury. … Nothing like that has taken place. It's just I’ve got to give him his space and credit for what he's doing and understand that right now. It's just a privacy matter. And I want him to stay connected, which he will. He was coaching on the bench tonight, which was beautiful to see.”
    What is your bowl game prediction?
    It's easier to project the entire SEC lineup. This is just a guess based on some limited intel:
    Playoff:
    Peach: Georgia
    New Year's Six (non-playoff)
    Sugar: Alabama
    Orange: Tennessee
    Citrus: LSU (maybe South Carolina?)
    SEC Pool of Six
    Reliaquest/Outback: South Carolina
    Las Vegas: Ole Miss
    Gator: Mississippi State
    Liberty: Arkansas
    Texas: Kentucky
    Music City: Florida
    Gasparilla: Missouri
    Another scenario: Missouri to the Texas Bowl; Kentucky to Music City; Florida to Birmingham. The Gators played in the Gasparilla Bowl, so if Florida is the odd man out of the Pool of Six, it'll be to Birminham, not Gasparilla. 
    I was pretty impressed by the win at Wichita State. I know they are no juggernaut like they used to be but I think this was a game a Cuonzo-coached team would not have won. Where did Noah Carter come from?! That guy is amazing. Thanks, Dave.
    Carter came from Northern Iowa. Athletic, versatile, good shooter. Will need to rebound.
    Would you consider the portal entry of D. Lovett a “surprise”? Anything that you are aware of led to this?
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