Fine by me. Glad you got it. Hope second one treats you well with few side effects. I'll be in line when it's my time, for sure.
One pretty significant difference was that the Stanton contract was a known. It was big, very big, but the Cardinals could think about it and wrap their arms around it. They knew the size, the length, the trade it would take to acquire and the money owed over its length. Harper and Machado were free-agent bidding wars, where big money and big years were going to be flying around in real time. And while the Cardinals have not spoken about this, the way the Stanton trade played out shortly after he got to New York might have reminded the Cardinals why they tend to steer away from those kinds of deals. It has not been as big of a home run as the Yankees hoped. On top of it all, I never once got sense Cardinals saw themselves as a fit with Machado. And tried to say that at the time. Harper would have made a lot of sense. Some of the hesitation there was the high hopes the Cardinals had for Tyler O'Neill. Those of course have not lived up to expectations.
Great question. I'm not sure. I'm not sure they are sure. They could add power at second or third instead, though they seem to be pretty committed to giving Matt Carpenter at least another shot this spring. (Not a crowd favorite, I know.) I don't know the answer to this one. I think they want to see which hitters they like are out there on the cheap as bargains start to happen, or who is getting desperate late before the season begins.
I wouldn't call him that. He's a future Hall of Famer in an organization that has more or less given him whatever he's wanted at every recent turn. Why would he expect something different now?
I would be surprised if we saw either of those two in the infield, especially at a position not named first base.
Fair question. Right now it would seem the Cardinals are more worried about getting burned by prematurely trading away the right guy than they are getting less for later trading away the wrong guy, if that makes sense. Some of this is obviously colored by the Arozarena deal. Mozeliak has admitted as much. But here's the thing, and you are onto it with your comment, there is no guarantee another Arozarena is in this current group.
Maybe more like 1-2. Edman isn't a sloppy defender. He isn't a Gold Glover, but he can hold his own at the position. Ironically where Wong might be missed as much is at the plate. Everyone eager to see him go cited his 2020 batting line, but look beyond that and he had been in a pretty good place, for him, for the three full seasons that came before it. If Edman plays decent defense and hits better than he did in 2020, the Cardinals will be OK post-Wong. Question is, where will the money freed up from Wong's nixed option go? If it's simply to bring back Wainwright and Molina, the team didn't get any better.
It could be, but he's a hard case to read. Love his potential. Concerned about his slide there. I think he could be a really good bounce-back candidate. Most importantly, as said before, I don't think the Cards are outfield shopping at this time -- unless they are hiding it well. Perhaps they are.
Both include a lot of bull.
He really doesn't hit that many home runs, at least not lately.
For some, it probably will. Only so many entertainment dollars to go around. But I think MLS crowds and MLB crowds might have less overlap between fans, too. Not that there won't be many fans of both teams, but that there might be more people who want to go to one and not the other -- and vice versa -- than we might think when thinking about pro sports. I think the soccer crowd will trend younger and more diverse, for example.
Whatever helps. Whatever might help. It can't hurt.
Indeed. Lots and lots of depth there. Affordable depth, too.
He's a pretty smart baseball player. Can't imagine he thinks this team can go very deep, as it is built right now.
Let's see what they look like before games start before we decide to grade the offseason. But right now things are not trending in a great direction. I know patience is not a favorite word around here, but the Cardinals have only decided to let Wong walk. That's it. Everything else is still up in the air, along with the future of most free agents at the moment.
If he wants to keep playing, I'm not sure why he would retire instead of accepting a one-year deal. A one-year deal at the right price would make a lot of sense for both Molina and the Cardinals. Especially after the Cardinals revealed they don't necessarily think Andrew Knizner is ready to catch every day if Molina is gone. Maybe that was a bluff, but it did not sound like it at the time. If Molina demands a mutli-year deal or else, I think most fans will see that as what it is -- he wanted to retire more than he wanted to play.
It looked sepia-toned or something. Like it was made to look old-timey, or something? Someone help me out here.
Eventually, maybe. Now? Don't think so. And despite all of the bluster about him and the Cardinals once again not reaching an easy agreement on what he should be paid this upcoming season, it's important to remember this argument is one Flaherty has against the system, not the Cardinals specifically. He would likely be having the same back and forth with most teams he played for, unless one offered him a big and early extension that convinced him to pass up at least his first shot at free agency, something he might not be willing to do. If the Cardinals become convinced they have no chance of keeping him, they should trade him, honestly, but I don't think there is any reason to rush that, and certainly even if you were going to move him, you would want him to bounce back from a down 2020 before you did.
Time to jet, folks. Thanks for a lively discussion. Same time and place next week!