Join columnist Jeff Gordon for his live STL sports chat at 1 p.m. Friday

Join columnist Jeff Gordon for his live STL sports chat at 1 p.m. Friday

Bring your Cards, Blues, Mizzou, SLU and MLS questions and comments, and talk to columnist Jeff Gordon in his weekly live chat.

    This year I'd rather have Goldschmidt than Voit, who can't stay on the field. But Voit is another guy the Cardinals underestimated. The front office got a good player for him, but it's safe to say it didn't expect him to become a high-impact player.
    Where does David Perron rank on the list of all-time Blues wingers?
  • Well down the list. A lot of Hall of Fame or near-HOF players toiled on the wing here. Hull, Shanahan, Tkachuk, Tarasenko, Mullen, Sutter, Demitra . . . and then short-terms like Dr. Glenn Anderson, stickblade surgeon, and Esa Tikkanen. Lot of great players came through here.
    team be better if goldy and arenado can get going. these two need to perform
    Jeff,
    Earlier you was asked if the Cards would make moves before the deadline to which you replied Yes.
    But will they be substantial moves? Signing players for the A and AA levels does nothing for the major league team. It does add needed depth in the minors, but I really doubt chatters are focused on that.
    This Team and organization was intentionally left short on depth coming into Spring Training. There was cheap depth for the taking. I applaud them for the Arenado move, but it should've never stopped there. I don't know of one writer who didn't call for them to add a pitcher or two. Not break the bank for Cy Young quality, but for depth and insurance if Mikolas struggled or if another starter went down. To think they would be totally healthy would be crazy. It doesn't happen in a normal year. We're at 18th of June and neither Mikolas or Flaherty are throwing (tossing a ball doesn't count). If they started throwing tomorrow it would be at least early August until they were built up for even a few innings. For either one to be counted on for 6 innings would be the end of August. I think that's too late. No September charge in this team. They don't hit well enough.

    If they don't get a starting pitcher and another substantial bat then you might as well say they did nothing. And by substantial I mean at least league average. Their bench is no where near it and anything is better than under the Mendoza line.
    Mo bet on the organization and it has not turned out well.
    As I said before, this team is about five players short. And while it will be difficult to add high-end pitching, there will be opportunities to improve the supporting cast and I expect that the team will do that. There is some obligation to hang in this year while they have Wainwright and Molina. Those guys are trying to will the team forward and they deserve to get some help.
  • For all the (merited) criticism Mabry received, the Cards' offense was always in the top half of OPS+ rankings when he was around. This is the third straight year they've been a solid bottom-half OPS+ team under Albert, and yesterday's lineup featured two veterans hitting below .180 and a third (Goldy) well below his career offensive numbers, with--like Yadi--two of his three years under Albert showing a decline greater than we saw from a similarly-aged (or older) Holliday, Edmonds, Beltran, Berkman, etc.

    Maybe the front office needs to give him better players, but if Mabry deserved the hot seat for the team's offensive performance under him, I just can't see Albert escaping similar--or greater--scrutiny when an offense with Yadi, O'Neill, Goldschmidt, Carlson, and Arenado almost got no-hit by a guy coming in with a 4.50 ERA. At this point I'd be happy to see the team pull the plug on the "Albert system" and bring back Budaska to lead the offense.
    Fans love scapegoats because they are easy targets. They see removing an individual coach as a quick fix. So they whined and whined and whined about Mabry, the same hitting coach who oversaw an epic season of clutch hitting.
    As for Albert, I haven't seen much evidence presented against him other than some guys aren't hitting well. But Molina has continued hitting well at an advanced age, Arenado has made a nice comeback from his shoulder injury, O'Neill has taken a big step forward and so has Dylan Carlson in his first full season.
    Other guys have regressed. And several of these guys should be in the big leagues at all. 
    Jeff,
    We've read how poorly the team does against teams over .500. We're certainly aware of how the pitching has struggled.
    But what about the offense against teams over .500? There RISP numbers are horrible already, but what about against teams who have a pulse? Right now it could be argued the only regular hitter who is out is Bader because I'm not counting bench players. Yet they still struggle and Bader is a #8 hitter.
    The Cardinals keep playing Matt Carpenter. And while he has been less terrible lately, you add his numbers to what Williams and Thomas did in the outfield and what Nogowski and Moroff did in limiated exposure and that is a LOT of failure. 
    Obviously the Cardinals need to get Paul DeJong hitting again. If he and Carpenter keep playing and keep stacking the outs, then these numbers against good teams won't improve.
    Instead of cheerleading for Matt Carpenter’s valiant quest to ‘do damage’ by ‘putting good swings on the ball’, I would like to see the Cards direct him to try to get as many actual hits as possible by mixing in some bunts and shots to the opposite field.

    But that’s not gonna happen, is it?

    Mo’s comment about hitting ‘em where they ain’t was merely an advisory opinion that Carpenter was free to ignore, and he has chosen to do so, right?
    Mozeliak has basically indicated he has given up on Carpenter changing his hitting approach. Matt has found his way on base this month at the .390 clip -- which is admirable, thanks to six walks and two HBPs in June  -- but he is just surviving up there. He gets a really big hit once every two or three weeks.
  • Hi Mr. Gordon,

    The Blues and the Cardinals both have some work to do to get where they want to be. Which roster do you think is closer to being a legitimate championship contender?
  • The Blues, given the high number of Cup winners stil there.
  • Jeff - I'm usually a defender of the Cards front office. They've done a terrific job of keeping this franchise competitive year to year, over an extended period of time. But like you, I'm puzzled by their lack of offseason moves, after the huge Arenado trade. How do you add Austin Dean, lifetime OPS of .671 and Jose Rondon, lifetime OPS of .593 and think, yep, this will get us to where we need to go.
  • They got Dean the year before, but I get your point. They went in with suspect depth and then didn't act once that suspect depth was exposed.
    Ah, for the days of Yairo Munoz filling in . . . 
    The All-Star Game is hardly the ultimate authority on talent, but it seems notable to me that the Cards haven't had 3+ representatives since 2016 (when they had six: Holliday, Martinez, Molina, Peralta, Rosenthal, Wacha).

    This year looks to be another featuring just 1-2 Cardinals, with Arenado, Molina, and Reyes all good possibilities but far from certain. Do you think this is more related to patterns in fan voting, the Cards' relative decreased success over the past 5 years leading to less familiarity among casual fans, or overall talent and development?
    If Jack Flaherty were healthy, then he would be in the All-Star game. And Tyler O'Neill might have better numbers in July than somebody who nakes the game, Again, I'm more concerned about the depth than the number of high -end players.
    Gordo,
    I think the Cards organization has fallen behind many others. For a long time the Cards were the standard bearers and practiced devil magic. I think this organization has been sliding since 2013. They have signed some horrible FAs and extended players who have been terrible. Their ability to understand and evaluate talent has become woeful. If I'm another GM I'd love to trade with the Cardinals--they'll give up some good talent that's controllable for years.
    A couple years ago DeJong was an All Star and it was coached/managed by the Dodgers organization. He raved about how they handles things. Talked about them not only providing scouting reports but how to take advantages of opponents weaknesses and their own strengths.
    Sherriff goes to the Rays and has nothing but positive things to say about them and how much more he appreciated them than the Cards--the organization he came up with.
    While the Dodgers can throw money around they still come up with guys no one has ever heard of. The Rays trade their Cy Young level pitcher to the Padres and everyone thinks they're going to tank. But look at where they're at.
    No, I'm not calling for his head, but this has all been on Mo's watch. I can't say I think he's the person to make the changes and get the organization back to where they once were.
    On the other hand, the Twins were supposed to contend this season and they fell apart. The Braves fell apart as well. The Padres spent big and they have fallen off the pace. The Nationals fell apart after winning it all. It's hard to contend every season. The Cardinals are still in the chase. At the moment, their 13-year run of relevance remains intact. Look around the sport. Note that this is uncommon.
    This team has lots of good players and lots of good long-term prospects. But right now it also has several holes that have remained unfilled.
    Please correct me if I'm wrong. Didn't MLB come out at the beginning of spring training saying they were looking at pitchers using illegal substances? I know I recall Shildt commenting on it then.
    It wasn't a couple weeks into the season and MLB was seizing balls thrown by Trevor Bauer.
    MLB has been saying they're going to start cracking down. Then they start laying out those guidelines.
    Yet Rich Hill and some other pitchers are crying about how the players association has done nothing. What are they suppose to do when someone is using an illegal substance? MLB has been warning players for months.

    Someone could make a case the Cards pitchers had been using illegal substances and stopped this year. Look at the walks and hit batsmen. Just last night Junior Fernandez threw more balls than strikes.
    Only now is MLB getting really serious, because players are calling out other players for blatant cheating and the media is having a field day. Once again baseball let things get out of hand. Finding the solution won't be easy because routine adhesives help the game while advanced adhesives are cheating. Asking umpires to draw the line is impossible, so now baseball will wipe out anything to improve the grip.
    Any chance the cards are sellers at the deadline and would Bader or Dejong being a quality starter or player.
  • If you are trading position players for a starting pitcher or another position player, you're not really a seller You are just changing parts. Given the team's immediate outfield depth, I find it unlikely Bader will move in a trade. He showed signs of progress at the plate for just a bit there and I'm guessing the team wants to see more.
  • How would you rank the Cards GM's :Bing Devine Bob Howsam, Whitey Herzog, Walt Jocketty & Mo? Whitey has to be #1 3 WS.
    Whitey set the stage for Whiteyball, which pulled this franchise out of the doldrums. I'll give Mozeliak the nod over Jocketty because the Cardinals improved on the player development side on his watch and became more consistently good. The others I was not around for.
    I complain about Mo as much as anyone but he's better than the Tank & ReBuild guys that win once and leave the team in a mess. Then there is Cashman in NY with a unlimited budget and hasn't won in years.
    Cardinal Nation is craving Scherzer as a season savior. Seems it might be wise to see how he fares after the Sticky Stuff crackdown. Cards could be overpaying for a diminished-ability rental.
    The other issues are Max's advanced age and injury risk. Also, the Cardinals are not one elite pitcher away from being a World Series favorite and other franchises might see themsleves that way.
    It's impossible to *really* know this counterfactual, but to what degree do you think the current roster struggles are still directly linked to Oscar Taveras' death? The franchise has since traded away numerous young and talented pitchers (Miller, Jenkins, Gallen, Alcantara) to unsuccessfully fill that RF and middle-of-the-order spot long-term (fingers crossed on Carlson), and the team still lacks an internally-developed hitter to build a lineup around (fingers crossed on O'Neill), where now we'd potentially be watching OT18 in his 7th full season at age 29. At some point it's little more than an excuse and the FO should have been able to adjust by now, but it sure seems we can trace a direct line from losing Taveras to still having an uncertain offensive identity and a lack of pitching depth.
    Oscar's death triggered a series of events, true, but the team is way past that now. Many outfielders have come and gone. The team has an interesting outfield with O'Neill-Bader-Carlson that could be very good for a long while, assuming the trio plays together more than occasionally.
    Jeff I would like to echo the sentiments that Rob shared regarding the great Jack Buck. I grew up in a small town 3 hours from St Louis. My father and I didn’t have a lot in common, who knows, perhaps we were too much alike. But many of my favorite memories of him were us sitting outside together listening to an old am-fm radio to Jack Buck describe the games that literally made you feel like you were there. We shared our love for the Cardinals. I can still here the old man gripe about Pete (ball four) Falcone (that’s what dad called him anyway) a young lefthander who never quite made it. I was definitely one of those kids who kept my transistor radio under my blanket when they played the three west coast teams. I always had a rough couple weeks in school back then. I was devastated when Jack passed. It was like knowing the days of my youth were gone forever. Thanks for the chance to comment and to the PD for rerunning Bernie’s brilliant article.
  • If Theo Epstein or Dave Dombauski was our GM we might win the WS this year but Gorman, Liberatore & Carson might be playing on another team.
    Actually Epstein would take the opposite approach and trade veterans for even more prospects to put around the guys in place. He would see that this team is a ways away from being a top contender.
    Got intrigued with your tip sheet post this week about Starling Marte. Any chance the Birds would be interested in him - at the right price?
    The Cardinals can use another outfielder who can hit, but at the moment pitching is their bigger priority. Oh, to get Sandy Alcantara back . . .
    What are your thoughts on MLB expansion and/or relocation? The A's are the hot topic regarding the latter, but I can't help notice that the Rays are in 1st place a year out from making the WS, on pace for a 4th-straight playoff season, and yet they're 4th-lowest in attendance, having only been in the top half of AL teams once in their 25 seasons. I don't see any way that team stays put once their stadium contract expires, do you?

    If the Rays owners push that move and the A's situation is still unsettled, *and* the league wants to go up to 32 teams, could we see MLB franchises in 4 new cities within a decade? Seems Vegas, Montreal, Charlotte, Nashville, Portland, and Mexico City are all regularly mentioned as candidates, each of which would make for some interesting divisional realignment.
    Expansion could be a nice money grab for the owners. Ditto for relocation. The A's to Vegas? Sure, that would make sense. Portland makes sense for expansion, although that team might want to the pass on Antifa Mask Giveaway Night. Nashville would be a fabulous market. Return to Montreal! Sportswriters would love those latter two stops.
    The Rays have tried and tried to get a new stadium on the Tampa side without success. I believe a state-of-the-art faciliiy within easier reach or more fans could save that market.
    There's a lot of talk about a trade but it seems Gorman, Libatore and Thompson are off limits so who does Mo have to trade? You've stated that Bader is unlikely. Mo could trade Dejong but he would be selling low. So my question is who does Mo have available to trade that could return a player that could make an impact?
    Not much, which is the problem. I don't see many surpluses. Maybe a Delvin Perez (slick fielder) or a Luken Baker (raw power) can made himselg into an asset this season, but I'd be surprised if the Cardinals put any of their intriguing '20 picks, topped off by Jordan Walker.
    Who would Mo have to give up to get Scherzer and Lester? Possibly Schwarber from the Nats? It seems that those 3 players could really help to get the Cards to the playoffs even if they would be rentals.
    For all of that I assume the Nationals would deman Matthew Liberatore and Johan Oviedo, perhaps with an Alec Burleson or Jhon Torres threw in.
    Have you heard much about Alec Burleson? He's doing well at AA wonder how he'd fair at AAA?
    Well, he hit well in college, then hit well in advanced Class and now he is hitting well in Double-A. I imagine he will get some Triple-A exposure this season because he is a mature player. He pitched in college, so his outfield arm should be a plus.
    I enjoy your chats Mr Gordon. Should MO seriously consider trading Flaherty at this point? I seriously doubt that Flaherty keeps his social justice campaign in STL given that he will make some serioy $$$$ in southern California. And no I'm not against his politics, I actually support him, I just don't see him staying with the Cards.
    I could see a day when trading him make sense, since nobody would be shocked if he wanted to pitch in SoCal some day. But first the team needs to make a serious effort to buy into at least a year or two of his free agency. And if trading him becomes a serious option, it would help to get him healthy so the team doesn't sell low on him.
    Also I know he's not on the 40 man and he just got of the 7 day IL but maybe the cards should give Nootbar a shot? He had a pretty good showing at Spring
    Lars Nootbaar didn't hit for big power in college and he hasn't hit for big power in the minors. But he can hit. Could he be more competitive as a big leagues batter than Lane Thomas? That is a very low bar to clear.
    That looks like it for now. Catch you next time. Try to stay cool this weekend, if that's even possible.
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