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Gordo, the issue I have with Walker and Wynn and other prospects is their arrivals do not intersect with the primes of Arenado and Goldy. They need to be seen as their eventual replacements, not what they plan to augment the roster with in 3-4 seasons. This club has no urgency to win anymore
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You say they lost their urgency to win, but the Cardinals post winning records year after year while staying in the playoff chase. To remain consistently competitive, teams need to keep their best prospects and maintain a self-renewing talent base. It is possible to play the long game and the short game simultaneously.
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Long shot title runs in '06 and '11 seemed to finally be losing steam as far as how the roster was being assembled and then the damn 17-game winning streak made the FO think they were on to something again. All for what, a one-and-done loss to L.A.? Have to wonder what this past winter would have looked like if the team had just faded down the stretch?
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I don't think fans want Mo to be fired of DeWitt to sell, but find the fifth gear once every 3-4 years, make a sizable move at the deadline, and show fans you're taking your shot. Maybe it ends because you run into a buzzsaw but this organization limps into the playoffs and then acts like it was somehow random that they scored minimal runs and lose quickly.
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Fans demand big trade deadline moves, when teams tend to overpay for very short-term gains. The better trades, like adding Goldschmidt and Arenado, are made between seasons so there is a 162-game benefit.Also, fans tend not to care much about prospect development. There is nothing exciting about trading for a Juan Yepez when he is at the Class A level and then developing him into an asset years later. Or drafting Nolan Gorman, Jordan Walker and Joshua Baez out of high school and then taking years to develop them.I look at the Philadelphia Phillies. They have made splashy move after splashy move. Their fans can cheer their franchise's "commitment to winning" . . . but the actual results have mediocre or worse for years.
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Seeing O'Neill thrive between Goldy and Areanado last year was it just coincidence that it took moving him out of the 3 hole that he got going again? Why does it seem baseball coaches wait so long to change things when they're not successful? Year in and out Cardinal managers stick w what's not working for what seems like way too long before trying something new? Will Marmol and the new metric trend change that moving forward?
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In the last chat or two I forget. A poster brought up a Mo trade that will go down as the worst in history. The Marcel Ozuna trade for Alcantara and Gellen. You agreed 100%. Another part of that fiasco that wasn't brought up. It was not hidden from Mo that Ozuna had a serious injury to his throwing shoulder. So he still goes through with it knowing that. I couldn't believe the shortstop would have to go at least halfway out to left field because Ozuna could not reach the infield!!! Then to make things infinitely worse the Brewers give up far less to get Yelich a few months later! Which made the Brewers a superior team! This is egregious!! And I support Medieval torture for Mo in public under the Arch 100%!! I will be there with my kids to watch!
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