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Last week you made light of my comment about the 2006 Cardinals’ success not being due to just-get-in-and-see-what-happens instead of what that team was which was essentially the same team from 2004-2005 by pointing to Jeff Weaver and Anthony Reyes getting two wins in the World Series.
The other 2 wins were from Carpenter and Wainwright.
Admittedly, Weaver was a pleasant surprise that postseason.
However, Anthony Reyes was the Cards #1 prospect by Baseball America in 2005 and 2006. He was the #33 overall prospect in MLB for 2006. His later career allows you to make the joke, but in 2006 this was a touted prospect with only 21 starts between 05/06 call ups as 23 and 24 yrs old living up to billing in a big moment.
Nevermind the fact that, again, that team had Molina, Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds. Very capable, reliable bench. Very capable rotation. Great players stepping up in NLDS and the NLCS.
That Weaver and Reyes got wins doesn’t prove this team was just taking advantage of randomness. That Weaver & Reyes was a pleasant surprise doesn’t justify the reliance on just-get-in-and-hope as a strategy.
As best I can’t tell, it’s maybe worked once for the Cardinals in 2011. A 90-win team that got white hot, squeaked in, and kept it rolling. But again, they had more players that move the needle than these last few years of the “sustained success” model. Predictably enough to get in, lucky to take advantage of fabled “postseason randomness” to sometimes win in the NLDS, predictably built to go 1-8 in the NLCS. -
So let's look at some other members of that 2006 Series team that got eight or more at bats against the Tigers: Ronnie Belliard, So Taguchi, Preston Wilson, Chris Duncan and Juan Encarnacion. David Eckstein was the hero, although to your point Jim Edmonds. Scott Rolen and Yadier Molina also hit well. The bullpen included the likes of Tyler Johnson, Brad Thompson, Randy Flores, Josh Kinney and Braden Looper.
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This year, the Padres believe they have a juggernaut. So do the Dodgers, So do the Mets. So do the Yankees. At least three of those aggressive teams will fall short. Maybe all four of them will. This is baseball. Fans of all four teams, as well as the Braves, can say they have a championship team on paper. But would it really be shocking if, say, the Minnesota Twins got hot and won it all?
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Just joining the chat. I saw someone mention Carlson's struggles as a leadoff hitter--he's hitting .163 in that spot. Why? I don't know. It's weird. But if the Cardinals could ever solve the leadoff spot, this offense would jump to elite. I'd like to see them given Donovan another chance now that he's adjusted to the adjustments against him. Like everyone, he has struggled when hitting leadoff, but it's a small sample size (31 total ABs).
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The leadoff spot has been the place where hope goes to die. Even though that hitter may only start off an inning once or twice, it still seems to be a mental thing. If guys go up there committed to making the pitcher work, they are going to end up taking the pitches they need to hit.
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