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Binnington's numbers go down every regular season. He's not a big strong guy. Griess is supposed to play over 30 games I don't see it? We're going to lose a good amount of games from inconsistent goal tending. Should have kept Husso over Leddy. We got enough lefty D!!!
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Gordo I find it interesting that Nolan Gormans name is coming up in trade rumors especially considering he has been touted as “the next great thing” for a few years now. And probably rightfully so. They would have to get a top starting pitcher in return for him. Having said that, I believe the Cards are actually a better “team” with DeJong and Edman at short and second. Exceptional defense. Edman & Gorman are league average at best. If you have inconsistent hitting and consistently poor pitching you better play great defense. I hope they don’t trade Gorman without certainty about Arenado’s future plans. You’re thoughts? Thanks!
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Like I noted earlier, trading away Nolan Gorman long-term power potential AND losing Nolan Arenado would sting. But at the moment, Paul DeJong (good defense, occasional homer) might be an upgrade of today's Gorman (OK defense, occasional homer) for the rest of the season.
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I believe Vladi's interest in the East Coast is related to Panarin who he played with in Russia for years. Vladi tried to recruit Panarin to the Blues when he went undrafted. www.nbcsports.com
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Please stop using the fact that the Cardinals are in the playoff chase or only a few games out as a support of what the FO has done. That's a fact without context and you know it. The Cardinals are in the hunt because of expanded playoffs and because they play in either the worst or second worst division in baseball. There are three tanking teams in the division and yet the Cardinals are only five games over .500. I don't have the animus towards Mozeliak as so many in these chats seem to have, but just be honest about what this team is and has been--mediocre and outclassed by the best teams. In the tanking era, the Cardinals haven't won more the 91 games since 2015. They've only one the division once in that same span, and it's been a weak division. You yourself have mocked the "nostalgia tour" as evidence that the team isn't putting all its resources into assembling the best possible product.
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Peer franchises like the Cubs, Reds and Pirates endure long stretches of painful failure. So that's your context for what the Cardinals have done. Fans in similar markets could love the opportunity to whine about their team winning just 90 games in a bad division.This team, when healthy, is pretty good. It has a nice mix of pitching, fielding, power and speed. But the team hasn't been healthy all year, which is why it has to aim higher with its depth of talent. The good news: Their prospect development is at a high point. The bad news: Some of that capital will get spent in the next few days to offset injuries. That may make it harder to build the sort of 100-victory team that fans weary of mere 90-victory success crave.
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Soto is great, but would cost too much and is not the Cards most urgent need -- pitching is, ideally two starters and one or even two relievers. Who are realistic targets beyond Castillo (the new schedule makes intra-divisional play less compelling), Montas, and Lopez?
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I know the Cardinals need pitching, but I would not waste a single top prospect on what is available. This is not a championship caliber team, so burning assets in order to try to sneak in is dumb. The Osuna fiasco should always be a lesson to the Cardinals--don't waste prime assets on non-sure things. If someone were looking to move a clear ace, that's one thing, but no one that's out there is close to that. If they can use second tier prospects to get some pitching, fine, but save the prime prospects either to acquire elite talent or to become part of the future.
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Until he plays a bunch at Triple-A, it's hard to place an ETA. I would say a some point next season he will get big league at bats. When he arrives, he is most likely to play outfield unless Arenado bails and the team tries to get him big league-ready at third base.
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We have all known going into this season we needed more Starting pitching. Not just arms but studs who can shut things down. But I don't envy how difficult it would be to understand contracts, years, talent, chemistry. What is more likely? Big trade with Washington? Big trade with the Angels. Lots of trades with multiple teams - or do nothing?
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I appreciate that the cost of good pitcher will be expensive from a prospect standpoint, but I don’t want to hear that as an excuse. Flaherty has dealt with injuries prior to this year. Matz was healthy last year, but during his career he’s missed significant time. The Alex Reyes injury history has been well documented. My point is nobody should be surprised the pitching is in the shape it’s in. The Cardinals stopped short and when fans like myself brought it up a common response was something to the effect of “it’s early and the roster isn’t frozen”. Acquiring good pitching is always expensive either in prospects or dollars. It was true last year, ten years ago, and it still will be ten years from now. My question is for all of the people who let the team off the hook at the deadline, is there any excuse from the team that you won’t accept?
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I have pointed out quite often that the team went into the spring without much of a safety net for pitching because there wasn't much behind the top few options at Memphis and the team made only the one move to upgrade the rotation with a veteran. I have also written about how the team filled bullpen depth on the cheap and how that cost them.The bottom line is, every team should expect their pitching staff to suffer multiple injuries every year. This week I wrote that an optimal starting point for the Cardinals is six strong starting pitchers backed by a good five-man rotation in Memphis. The bullpen should have six high-leverage relievers with four good options available on the Memphis shuttle.If the Cardinals achieve that going into next season -- a doable goal --then they would be as well-prepared as possible for the injuries to come.
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People, including you, Gordo, need to stop making claims about what the Nats want or are attempting to do with ihe Cardinals. Everything out there is speculation because until their ownership has a sense of when it will be selling and what will be most enticing to buyers, they won't be engaging in any talks. No one knows what the Nats want because the Nats don't even know if they are ready to deal Soto, and they aren't leaking offers or wish-lists. It's all twitter speculation.
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Will the Cardinal's front office be kicking itself for not signing more reasonable pitching depth last offseason, if they have to give up significant prospect capital to infuse some talent into the rotation? Will it be worse if Soto does get moved and they don't have the firepower left to pull of a deal because they spend their dry powder in prospects to get more arms?
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Sure, the Cardinals should have done more in the offseason to fortify their pitching. Fans get worked into a frenzy over trade deadline deals, but I'm more interested in what teams do to build depth through player development and offseason moves that yield full-season value.