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Do the Red Wings believe this is their year? I doubt it. They wanted to compete this year, but they are at best the 11th- or 12-best team on their side of the league. Adding payroll is one thing, which they did, but trading long-term assets just as they start turning the corner -- that would seem dumb. I believe teams with legitimate Stanley Cup hopes would be the ones interested in O'Reilly as a matchup guy or injury replacement.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:17:17 PM
I don't think the Blues have recovered from the loss of both Petro and Bouwmeester - that is tough to lose your two best defensive players ... that were also two of the best in the entire league. ROR, Schenn, and Tarasenko all seem a step slower to me this year also. We're not as gritty and tough as we were winning the Cup, we're not as strong on the forecheck, and we're definitely not as good defensively (we've replaced great defensive defensemen with the likes of Krug). I think it will be a long year.

by 5gman 12/9/2022 8:17:47 PM
Yes, it will be a long year.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:17:57 PM
In a decade of trying, Mo has made it clear he cannot make a World Series winner. It was his quote that said, trying the same thing over and over is the definition of crazy and yet the BDW sticks with him.

by B 12/9/2022 8:18:04 PM
Why does Mozeliak still have a job? The Cardinals contend every single year, unlike peer franchises, and they draw consistently strong crowds. The franchise value appreciation on Mozeliak's watch has been staggering. And given the current stock of young talent, this franchise appears destined for further success moving forward.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:20:10 PM
I thought Yadi's salary was 17 mil?

by Ed 12/9/2022 8:21:33 PM
Nope, it was $10 million. Previously he had a three-year, $60 million deal.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:21:56 PM
Jeff I was originally hoping for a trade for Murphy but agree the asking price too high. So I am glad they made BenFred happy and signed Contreas. He will greatly improve the offense. I also agree with your assessment about seeing how the young players develop. There will be less DH clutter and Marmol should be able to maximize at bats and playing time for Gorman, Yepez , Burleson, et all. To me Tyler O’Neill is the key to the lineup. Which Tyler shows up? Thanks for the chance to comment.

by Arnold 12/9/2022 8:22:12 PM
While Tyler O'Neill has been a source of exasperation for the team and fans alike, he offers value at his pre-free agency pay rate. Other outfielders with injury and/or slump issues are getting paid tons more.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:23:18 PM
Are you sure Parayko has value with that contract? 7 years left after this season. I'm sure someone would take him because you're right, $6.5M is where things are heading for second pairing defensemen, which is what he is. But I don't think you'd get much back for him, maybe a couple of prospects the team was no longer very high on.

by Matt L. 12/9/2022 8:23:37 PM
Perhaps your are right, but that would clear salary cap space to spend on younger pieces as part of a retooling.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:24:05 PM
I wouldn't call three to four years a retool. That's a rebuild. A retool would be trading away veterans for prospects or picks this year but trying to get back into the playoffs next year. I am fine with that, but I want no part of a Coyote style tank and rebuild.

by Matt L. 12/9/2022 8:24:11 PM
Every team retools every year. No roster is static. But a thorough retooling around the Thomas/Kyrou would take a few years to execute, with the team trying to stay competitive through the process. A rebuild would include trading guys like Kyrou and Thomas, as the Blackhawks did with Alex DeBrincat, and starting over from the ground up.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:27:10 PM
Jeff, did you ever think we'd see the day when Tage Thompson would be on a 60 goal, 120 point pace over a quarter of the way through a season? Blues are obviously happy with how that trade turned out, but the deal no longer looks like another Army steal.

by Bobo's Pet Monkey 12/9/2022 8:27:17 PM
Well, there was that Stanley Cup. If Buffalo wins multiple Stanley Cups down the road, then it can talk about winning the trade.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:28:07 PM
So, who's going to be the lead reporter for the BattleHawks?..... perhaps you, Bobo?......Ka-Kaw

by Metal Mike 12/9/2022 8:28:09 PM
I believe Joe Lyons will be back on the beat.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:28:39 PM
How much if any was the Contreras signing done for Marketing and ticket sales versus trying to win? Seems Mo could of used that money to get an ace or LH bat but with Yadi retiring it doesn't hurt to have a familiar face at Catcher to sell some tickets. Please keep in mind that this is only a question. Thanks again BoBo.

by Jimmy 12/9/2022 8:28:46 PM
The Cardinals needed a catcher, their top priority, and they needed more offense. Contreras fills both needs in one move without costing the team any long-term assets. Now the Cardinals can either use those saved long-term assets on the field and trade them to fill other needs.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:30:34 PM
I have to defend myself. Everyone says Villie Husso wanted to be a starter and that's why why Army traded him. That is a false narrative. Husso through his agent offered a hometown discount to stay with the Blues. Also there are very few number 1 goalies in the league. Teams prefer tandems for many reasons most of them due to the grind of the season. Husso was the number 1 starter for the Blues last year.. Army should be on probation for letting him go!!

by Roy Hobbs 12/9/2022 8:30:52 PM
Ville Husso is not coming back. Give it up.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:31:07 PM
If the Cardinals are done adding talent, their opening day giveaway should be a bible. This will support the team motto of "Hope and Pray."

by Scott Stewart 12/9/2022 8:31:10 PM
The roster is not frozen. But as is, the Cardinals will be widely picked to win another NL Central title.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:31:47 PM
Gordo - it's DeWitt's money, if he wants to pay Wainwright $17.5m that's his business, but the fact is that Wainwright was bad against playoff teams last year and especially so on the road. And, again, I'm not protesting his inclusion in the '23 rotation but more the over-hyped expectations of his performance.

by JoJo Disco 12/9/2022 8:32:16 PM
So what are the expectations? That Wainwright will pitch a bunch of innings? That might be optimistic, given his late fade, but at the very least he will help preserve the pitching-centric culture with the team that will aid the young hurlers coming up. That is a factor in all of this too.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:33:43 PM
Worse signing DeGrom (IL list main residence) to Rangers 5 years 185mil. A World Series can't be worth that much.

by Ed 12/9/2022 8:33:52 PM
That is a great example of how every team has a hope list. The Rangers paid a premium for arguably the most dominant starting pitcher who might also be the most fragile starting pitcher.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:35:11 PM
What is the market for Tatis? What is the inside on attitude? Ability to perform without enhancements? Is he worth the pursuit for possibly outfield?

by Faus 12/9/2022 8:35:23 PM
I've always thought that would be a classic Cardinals' play -- getting the Padres to pay for some of that contract while giving him a fresh start in St. Louis. But I might be the only guy looking at it that way.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:36:23 PM
Happy birthday!

by Faus 12/9/2022 8:36:47 PM
Happy birthday I want to wish you the knowledge that we appreciate this and you and it's not a vent as much as passion for the success of the Cardinals and our tradition.

by Faus 12/9/2022 8:36:59 PM
Thank you. Already had my birthday cupcake, so I am running on sugar and caffeine right now.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:37:27 PM
The Blues.. I watch the games and their play is being labeled inconsistent. I am not sure I agree... The play is consistent but the results are inconsistent. We continue to have trouble moving people out of the front of our net, Only Schenn and Thomas can skate the puck into our zone and retain it (although ROR does it well before he dumps it). Coach is calling out a lot of the team but there has to be a handful of the core that's the issue... Are there metrics to help tell the story of who needs to improve. +- doesn't seem to translate

by Schlay 12/9/2022 8:40:35 PM
Well,, I agree that this team is consistent in a not-so-good way. We see the same issues every game. We used to see the problems here and there, but now we are seeing complete breakdowns.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:41:44 PM
Quality isn't guaranteed. Harper is hurt, Bellinger and Yelich are lost! Who's that player that's a sure thing?

by Ed 12/9/2022 8:44:30 PM
Ask Mike Trout about that.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:44:43 PM
Happy Birthday, Jeff!
Thanks for all you do.
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by elder fan 12/9/2022 8:44:45 PM
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by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:45:30 PM
I guess Mo is hosting your birthday party

by B 12/9/2022 8:46:08 PM
I was hoping to get both Fredbird and a bounce house for the front yard, but there was no budget for that with Christmas so close.

by Jeff Gordon 12/9/2022 8:46:56 PM
The Contreras contract only added 7.5 mil. Arbitration will add money but I don't think the "payroll will raise" is what the fans expected in Mo's quote.

by Ed 12/9/2022 8:47:13 PM